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| Thread ID: 146023 | 2018-04-03 08:49:00 | Time for the coalition to go already! | Bryan (147) | PC World Chat |
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| 1448015 | 2018-04-04 10:17:00 | I won't be forgiving National for a decade of lies, denials and inaction. It'll take a long time, or an abysmal left before I ever consider returning my vote to the right. Currently I'm very happy with Labour. At least they are actually governing, rather than just warming a row of seats in the chambers. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1448016 | 2018-04-04 22:25:00 | Im hardly a Labour voter , but It was OK for Nats to increase tax's ,petrol & gst, and then give tax cuts to the wealthy So its OK for Nat to increase tax's ? incl petrol tax Bribe everyone with income tax cuts the country couldnt afford (giving the average Joe maybe $10 a week, big whoop) Ignore issues with a major hospital being unfit for purpose . Then pretend they didnt know We all knew lefties tend to be anti car top some extent. Shouldnt be a surprise . They are the govt . The Nats didnt get enough votes , so blame the people who voted for them, not the obvious outcome. Blame the Nats instead for going after rich & business voters, rather than the Av middle class vote . None of this should be a surprise. |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1448017 | 2018-04-05 02:03:00 | New Zealand Voters need reminding that National had the highest number of votes of any party, and this Labour lead coalition is in power courtesy of Winston Peters. How many NZ First voters would have voted the way they did if they thought Winston Peters would throw in his lot with Labour, when they were not the majority party. This result is courtesy of the MMP system, and the question needs to be asked, does the MMP result actually reflect the wishes of the majority of NZ voters. Perhaps the time is ripe to have a cold hard look at MMP and consider whether optional preferential voting would better serve the people and more accurately reflect their wishes. People need to be reminded of some basic economic facts: The Government has no money, it is the peoples' money, and election promises amount to the briber buying the votes with the voters own money. The major problem with socialism is that sooner or later it runs out of other peoples money. There is no such thing in the world as a free lunch, some sucker always pays, and apart from social welfare which should be a hand up not a hand out (and certainly not a reward for the indolent and work shy), we all end up paying for the government's spending. There are costs in a civilised society that must be publicly funded, Law and order, Justice, Defence, infrastructure, but over government is an avoidable cost. When the Government takes on anything outside it's basic duties and competence it is the least cost effective way of getting any job done. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1448018 | 2018-04-05 02:21:00 | How many NZ First voters would have voted the way they did if they thought Winston Peters would throw in his lot with Labour, when they were not the majority party. . I suspect many of them. The NZ First voters knew Peters would side with either Labour or Nat. 50/50 chance either way. And after the Nats (supposedly) leaked Peters private info , NZF voters must have seen Peters was p8ssed off with Nat & more likely to go Labour . No matter who you voted for, it was always going to be a coalition govt either way. So why do some moan about what party got more votes. NONE got enough votes to get into power . It was allways going to be like this . Would be dirty deals either way. I do agree with a comment above. Labor more likely to make changes. Nat more likely to do nothing :status quo (not the band :-) |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1448019 | 2018-04-05 03:11:00 | New Zealand Voters need reminding that National had the highest number of votes of any party Totally irrelevant drivel, they haven't the numbers to govern and that's that. :) |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1448020 | 2018-04-05 06:44:00 | We count as these poor.....husband and pension..... He's not unhappy. There's the Energy payment thing coming in. Petrol tax, well yes....but we don't drive much now. Er...what else is meant to be bad? Public transport? Well, if they do it right, Auckland does need better public transport. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1448021 | 2018-04-05 07:57:00 | NZF voters must have seen Peters was p8ssed off with Nat & more likely to go Labour . Especially as it would be his last chance to fill his dream of being Prime Minister. Remember at the time of the alliance it was not widely publicised that Jacinda was pregnant, and would need to stand down while on maternity leave. Because there is no precedence for an acting prime minister while the incumbent was still in the country it is my understanding Jacinda will have to step down ... and maverick Winston then becomes PM. Quite a prize for Winston. Prime Minister Winston, no less. But would you trust Winston to be true to his word and relinquish when the time comes? I wouldn't. And should Winston have to be absent overseas, that would also mean the acting PM becomes Kelvin Davis ... god help us (no one else will). The country really needs to look at the reality of life under MMP. |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1448022 | 2018-04-05 08:15:00 | it is my understanding Jacinda will have to step down ... and maverick Winston then becomes PM. Quite a prize for Winston. Prime Minister Winston, no less. But would you trust Winston to be true to his word and relinquish when the time comes? . Hell no. She's on maternity leave and not much of it at that. she sure doesn't step down at all. He isn't voted in, either by public vote nor the party. All he gets to do is play PM while shes away. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1448023 | 2018-04-05 11:42:00 | Hell no. She's on maternity leave and not much of it at that. she sure doesn't step down at all. He isn't voted in, either by public vote nor the party. All he gets to do is play PM while shes away. Gotcha ... :) My post was based on a political blog by David Farrar in which he wrote the following factitious statement attributed to Jacinda ... I have sought advice from the Cabinet Office about the proper governance arrangements during my parental leave. The Cabinet Office has advised that a Minister is normally only appointed Acting Prime Minister when the Prime Minister is out of the country. There is no precedent to have both a Prime Minister and Acting Prime Minister in the country at the same time. To avoid any confusion, Cabinet has decided that during my parental leave the Rt Hon Winston Peters will be sworn in as the 41st Prime Minister of New Zealand.” Winston finally gets to be Prime Minister – his life long desire. Cynically you have to wonder if this was an unofficial part of the coalition deal – Labour could give him the one thing National couldn’t – a place in the history books as Prime Minister. April 1 I think, was the date of the statement ... :banana:banana |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1448024 | 2018-04-06 00:55:00 | So Winny becomes PM. It doesnt really give him any superpowers . PM is not King or dictator. :-) He cant pass laws , make new regulations etc. he doesnt get a crown or silly wig & gown He does get to meet & greet & it gives him status , and alot more time on TV . Im sure thats all he wants |
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