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| Thread ID: 145975 | 2018-03-21 19:03:00 | Stir: Shane Jones is Quite Right | Terry Porritt (14) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1447555 | 2018-03-22 02:45:00 | Screw Shane Jones! | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1447556 | 2018-03-22 02:57:00 | The point is they are making a profit on the Kapiti Flights. If they can't at 80% occupancy, then something wrong ! That bastion of National, the farmers and agriculuturists are quick to bleat about handouts and compensation when the weather or pests go haywire :) Life is not simple profit and loss and not paying tax, or avoiding tax, social conscience was thrown out the window by Douglas, Bolger, Shipley, Richardson and co. Douglas knew full well that when import controls were removed "at a stroke'. that there would be mass unemployment and most manufacturing firms would close, but they did nothing about putting anything else in place to ameliorate things , not even any controls on importers to ensure that el cheapo made goods coming in conformed to New Zealand Standards. It was buyer beware and find out if junk or dangererous after the purchase, it still is, witness fake steel and fake certificates. Good old rant, blame it on the medication I'm on:devil |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1447557 | 2018-03-22 03:26:00 | Further to the rant, we had Chris Luxon yesterday comparing NZ regional flight services to the UK among other countries, what a crock. www.radionz.co.nz UK has never had that much regional flight services, not like NZ. I mean when you can drive from Birmingham to London in about or less time than it takes to get to Wellington airport from Upper Hutt by public transport, or even car in the rush hour and board a plane............The roading is quite different no comparison to NZ whatsoever. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1447558 | 2018-03-22 23:03:00 | There are quite a few other airlines that are set up to use these smaller centers, and they do it very well. If it is viable then they will step in. Here in Nelson there are over 250 passenger fight movements a week and small airlines are part of that. They all have to make a profit, if ANZ can't make a profit on these flights then they need to get out. ANZ are a high overhead airline. There profit is not even one new 777. | Arnie (6624) | ||
| 1447559 | 2018-03-23 00:24:00 | It pays to read threads right through. It is not a question of Air NZ making a loss, The first post said they had made a record profit, but be that as it may. There are two schools of thought, the right wing purists who maintain that profits to the company and shareholders is paramount to the exclusion of all else , then those like myself who think that a monopoly like Air NZ, 51 % owned by the people of NZ, also has a degree of social responsibility to the people, especially as they were bailed out to the tune of $885m in 2002 the government having 82% stake progressively selling down to the current 51% after partial privatisation. Companies offer "loss leader" products all the time, it is part of marketing to entice sales in other areas, common practice. Then we have killing off the opposition pricing tacticts which Air NZ have also indulged in. As an aside in the 70s, Japanese bearing companies like NTN and NSK, grossly undercut American manufacturers to drive them out of business, when they had captured the majority of the market, they moved factories to the US and the prices went up again. The darker side of capitalism. But RW purists wouldn't see anything wrong with that practice, not unless they themselves were being hurt, then they would squeel, "not fair"..............echos of Trump :) |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1447560 | 2018-03-23 02:04:00 | No b/s JONES is only doing his job and good on him. We took up shares in Air NZ back in 2008 and they trippled in value by 2016. Trsfd. them to son and silly beggar sold them off and bought Stuff instead. Terry your last para. is spot on and look at yesterday's The Press Xi Jinping is about to do the same thing as Japan "global supremecy". Tried to find an article about "making US great again", the gist of the article was that if WalMart stopped importing fom China, China would go broke, as they imported $us90 billion worth of Chinese goods every year. lurking. |
Lurking (218) | ||
| 1447561 | 2018-03-23 06:08:00 | Bit shortsighted pulling out of Kapiti. Once Transmission Gully and the expressway are completed it would probably be the preferred airport for people in the northern Wellington area, and further up to Otaki/Levin. | Sirhc (15872) | ||
| 1447562 | 2018-03-25 14:11:00 | 1 Goes to show that we need twice as many people in NZ. Twice as many people in every small town and city would make them all more viable 2 I do not agree with subsidies etc. BUT Air New Zealand has had a habit over the last 70 years of closing down by any means any small regional airlines that start up. Either by buying them up or operating at a loss against them. 3 Why is air travel across the Tasman so cheap, yet so dear on our main trunk routes? 4 **** Air New Zealand |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1447563 | 2018-03-25 18:28:00 | Still going on with all that increased population crap I see. | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1447564 | 2018-03-25 20:28:00 | It is quite simple. If Air NZ makes a profit on a flight they will provide it. If they cannot make a profit they would be stupid to do so. If the Government either National or Local belives there is a legitimate social benefit to providing the service they should subsidise it and put it out to tender. Anyone in any business who does not make a profit does not last very long. True - Govt could help out. But then critics abound...Blast low income/beneficiaries for cheap flights. But in any case won't tit disrupt the share market - i.e. Air NZ shares? |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
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