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Thread ID: 96454	2009-01-11 05:11:00	Gaza\Israel Conflict	SolMiester (139)	PC World Chat

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737361	2009-01-14 06:35:00	He is a good lad our Terry,just that he sees things through pink tinted glasses. :) ....only pink tinted relative to the New Right, the Act Party and Cicero, they are still quite blue in my book relative to the traditional Conservatism of MacMillan, Eden, Churchill et al :) Sollys' response actually illustrates my point about fact spinning. "OMG Terry, you are such a tool, if you cant see the difference between the Palestinian Mission Statement of Death to all Jews, rearing of children for terrorism then you my friend are already lost. Apart from the outright lies, the Arabs admit they are bent on the destruction of Israel as apposed to self preservation of the Jewish counter-attacks." I am almost certain that none of that is said on the website I quoted (almost certain because I havent read it 100% through) I will stand corrected though if it can be quoted........... "Yes the Jews are taking all the land they can get their hands on, but they are developing it. In 60 years the Jews have developed more than the Arabs of Palestine in the last thousand years." That is classic Israeli/Zionist spin. At least you admit Arabs have been there for the last thousand years, but the arrogance of using the argument of under utilisation of land as an excuse for occupation (and resulting eviction of Arabs) is on a par with English Imperial arrogance in seizing and ruling overseas territories. At least the English believed they were bringing enlightenment and civilisation to the natives :)	Terry Porritt (14)
737362	2009-01-14 06:48:00	Terry, you didnt read the link did you!, while there were SOME Arabs (note-not called Palestinians), there were also Jews, however the Jews were there before the Arabs.... While you go on about spin, the Palestinians are just outright liars!..... Where did I excuse occupation via development?....the eviction of Arabs 1st was by their own kind...duh...do some damn reading Terry. I was stating development and use of the land instead of draining of such...jeez. The Arabs in 48 told them to migrate and after they had destroyed them, they could return....yet guess what, all the Arab states with all their land still wont allow the Palestinians into their lands, because they want the world to see displayed Palestinians....it a tool!	SolMiester (139)
737363	2009-01-14 09:40:00	All this discussion about the Israeli invasion of Gaza can be resolved with a simple question. Does G. W. Bush and his cronies approve of what Israel is doing? The answer is yes, they do. Therefore the invasion is wrong, and probably criminal.	rumpty (2863)
737364	2009-01-14 16:55:00	:) . . . . only pink tinted relative to the New Right, the Act Party and Cicero, they are still quite blue in my book relative to the traditional Conservatism of MacMillan, Eden, Churchill et al :) :) You keep saying that,but both Winnie and I have our doubts,in view of endless evidence to the contrary .	Cicero (40)
737365	2009-01-14 17:35:00	The only thing Israel wants is the whole of Palestine area...its being backed by the US who supply israel with arms to help fight 'terrorism' but in term expects Hizbullah and Hamas to hold non to defend themselves in case israeli forces launch un expected attacks just like they did weeks ago. There is no reason behind it. We can sit here all day and talk. The fact of the matter is its purrreee genocide, nothing else. Iraqis being slaughtered in Iraq even when they had NOTHING to do with 9/11 attacks. Same goes with palestinians...... Israel wants nothing but the entire land of Palestine, i guess words like "War against terrorism" and "Illegal Occupation" are meant to be used in favor of Israel and US only.	Arc (14509)
737366	2009-01-15 04:05:00	The only thing Israel wants is the whole of Palestine area...its being backed by the US who supply israel with arms to help fight 'terrorism' but in term expects Hizbullah and Hamas to hold non to defend themselves in case israeli forces launch un expected attacks just like they did weeks ago. There is no reason behind it. We can sit here all day and talk. The fact of the matter is its purrreee genocide, nothing else. Iraqis being slaughtered in Iraq even when they had NOTHING to do with 9/11 attacks. Same goes with palestinians...... Israel wants nothing but the entire land of Palestine, i guess words like "War against terrorism" and "Illegal Occupation" are meant to be used in favor of Israel and US only. Israel could have kept half of Egypt if it wanted to but it still gave it back so that there could be peace again (Talking about the Sinai here) You think they want 2 hellholes like the West Bank and Gaza? To do what with? Un-expected attack? If I had rockets being fired at my house for months on end, I wouldn't warn them either before attacking them. You're surprised that Israel attacked Hamas? Are you surprised that the USA attacked Japan after Pearl Harbour?	beeswax34 (63)
737367	2009-01-15 04:18:00	Israel could have kept half of Egypt if it wanted to but it still gave it back so that there could be peace again (Talking about the Sinai here) You think they want 2 hellholes like the West Bank and Gaza? To do what with? Un-expected attack? If I had rockets being fired at my house for months on end, I wouldn't warn them either before attacking them. You're surprised that Israel attacked Hamas? Are you surprised that the USA attacked Japan after Pearl Harbour? So true waxy. Some good examples of side taking here Andy.	Cicero (40)
737368	2009-01-15 06:43:00	"The Jews and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." Al Bayyina (The Proof) 98:1 "Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, lie in ambush everywhere for them." Sal- Tawha (Penitence) 9:4 "Many are the rabbies and the monks who defraud men of their possessions and debar them from the path of Allah." Al-Tawha (Repentance) 9:34 " You will find the most implacable of men in their enmity to the sinful are the Jews." Al- Ma'ida (The Table) 5:82 "Kill them wherever you find them. Thus shall the unbelievers be rewarded." Al-Bagquara (The Cow) 2:90 "The Jews have perverted the Scriptures and forgotten much of what they were enjoined. You will ever find them deceitful." Al- Ma'ida (The Table) 5:49 and last but not least. "The unbelievers are your sworn enemies!" Al-Nisa (Woman) 4:96 And Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights." When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)). As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States -- Muslim 1.0% Australia -- Muslim 1.5% Canada -- Muslim 1.9% China -- Muslim 1%-2% Italy -- Muslim 1.5% Norway -- Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark -- Muslim 2% Germany -- Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7% Spain -- Muslim 4% Thailand -- Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States). France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non- Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons). Guyana -- Muslim 10% India -- Muslim 13.4% Israel -- Muslim 16% Kenya -- Muslim 10% Russia -- Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia -- Muslim 40% Chad -- Muslim 53.1% Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7% From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania -- Muslim 70% Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% Qatar -- Muslim 77.5% Sudan -- Muslim 70% After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza -- Muslim 98.7% Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1% Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92% Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97% Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90% Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96% 100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace - there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim 100% Yemen -- Muslim 100% Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. "Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, "The Haj" It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate. Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.. This is information from a friend on an American forum.......	SolMiester (139)
737369	2009-01-15 06:44:00	This is posted on TM....wow switch3.castup.net	SolMiester (139)
737370	2009-01-15 16:44:00	Wow that was a amazing interview/talk show!!! Really surprised to see and hear that coming from an Arab!!! I do think though she just signed her on death warrant with what she said though.As you cant say that and live. She's got guts and good on her,but she better have body guards for the rest of life!!!	memphis (2869)
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