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Thread ID: 96498 2009-01-12 08:36:00 Becoming a US citizen...in shortest time possible? --Wolf-- (128) PC World Chat
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737969 2009-01-16 01:49:00 Ah Joe - you crack me up! :lol: :lol:

You've definitly got a bed for two here when you visit NZ!

:thanks

:)


Missed the edit limit....

OK...here's an idea if you just want to get to the US and get to stay a while, then join the Marines and try to get free citizenship afterwards......

Buy a sombrero, a serape, a guitar, some huaraches, and grow a mustache and then sneak across the Southern Border in California. DON'T try to come in thru Texas or Arizona - you will be shot by citizen anti-terrorist patrols!

Learn a couple of Spanish/Mexican words - phrases are not required - words like: "Hola!" and "¿Que?" and "Si!" "Frijole" and "No habla Ingleesh".

You will get a large cash reward for making it into the US with free medical and dental, optical and maternity pay; a free home and a Small-Business Loan at 1% to open your own 7-11 Store with a real Slurpee® machine and "Scratchers©" dispenser.

Any illegitimate children you create will secure your staying in the US with your "Anchor-Babies" and they too will receive cradle-to-grave care, food, housing and a small business of their choice when the government pays you to retire in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, all expenses paid.

Don't bother joining the Gyrines; this is so much more lucrative!

Besides: Do you know the sound a piece of fecal matter makes when it hits a fan blade? "Mah-r-r-r-ine!" <that's an old US Navy joke - sorry!>
Greg (193)
737970 2009-01-27 08:18:00 First details of my journey:


Thanks for your question below. Unfortunately, military recruitment does not fall within the scope of the US Diplomatic Mission in New Zealand. However, the following general information is provided for your reference:

Enlisted Personnel

All applicants for enlistment in the U.S. Armed Forces (as well as the U.S. Civil Service and law enforcement agencies) must be either

i. a U.S. citizen
OR

ii. a registered alien who is

a. legally and permanently resident in the U.S., and

b. in possession of a U.S. Immigration ('Green') Card (INS 1-151 or INS 1-551) and Social Security number.

In general, applications for enlistment are normally processed on-site at a recruiting office in the United States. Since all applicants have to take the necessary physical and mental examinations to determine their suitability, there is no way of foretelling whether or not they will be recruited. Recruitment also depends on the needs of the Armed Forces at that time.

Permanent resident status, a prerequisite if the enlisted is not a U.S. citizen, requires that the alien qualify for an immigrant visa to enter the United States. You should be aware, however, that for the reasons stated above, no assurance can be given in advance that an applicant will successfully pass the various physical and aptitude tests for acceptance into the Armed Forces. An immigrant visa will not be issued on the basis of intention to enlist or intention to qualify for government employment upon arrival in the United States.

Officers

The selection process for a commissioned officer is highly competitive and includes, among other things, the following requirements: the candidate must be a U.S. citizen; before selection by a Military Academy for officer training, the candidate must pass a rigorous physical examination; he or she must be a high-school graduate, or a senior who has achieved excellent academic qualifications in high school. In addition, a pilot candidate must be both an existing commissioned officer and a U.S. citizen.

The criteria for granting both immigrant visas and United States citizenship are complex. All inquiries should in the first instance be directed to the Non Immigrant Visa Section at the US Consulate General in Aucklan (newzealand.usembassy.gov).



Further information about the United States Marine Corps can be found at: www.marines.mil.


I hope that this information proves of use to you and wish you every success.


Hmm...really need to contact a Marine Recruiter I think...but www.marines.com won't give me a number/email as I'm not within the States. Anyone with a US address/zip/phone/details wanna try and get me a number/email?
--Wolf-- (128)
737971 2009-01-27 10:16:00 They allow gays in the Marines now, don't they? Deane F (8204)
737972 2009-01-27 10:17:00 Google dude, here's like 10 offices just in Los Angeles:

www.google.com
beeswax34 (63)
737973 2009-01-27 10:47:00 Thanks beeswax, will give them a call tomorrow.

Was trying to get a number through www.marines.com, what a hassle.
--Wolf-- (128)
737974 2009-02-15 08:43:00 WolfForest, have you joined up yet? NZ Army, or ???

If you still want to become a US Marine, your best bet looks to be first learning a skilled trade, then going to the USA as a skilled immigrant, then joining the military and as a bonus you will get USA citizenship. Read here. (digg.com)

"The American military will begin recruiting skilled immigrants who are living in this country with temporary visas, offering them the chance to become United States citizens in as little as six months. Recruiters expect that they will have more education and skills than many others who enlist, and help fill shortages in significant military fields."
Strommer (42)
737975 2009-02-15 10:02:00 Ah, forgot about this thread.

Made a few phone calls to the US Marine Recruiters, a couple said they'd call me back but when I gave them my phone number they were stumped even when I explained I was calling from NZ. However, one station put me through to the Marine Recruiter in charge. Really nice guy with a good American sense of humor (told me to get on a plane to Hawaii and get drunk with his favorite type of rum) and he actually said my best bet would be to join the Aussie Army, but when I told him we actually have our own Army he was pretty shocked to say the least, I don't think he even believed me.

But in short, they all said I need a Green Card. Few years (possibly) and a few thousand dollars to get one.

So I thought, what's the point in it? I'm 17 at the end of this year and our Army is just around the corner so I've decided what I'm now going to do.

Start of next year I'm joining the NZ Army as either a Rifleman or a Vehicle Mechanic. After a few years I'm going to try out for the NZSAS (as someone in this thread suggested a while ago). I watched that documentary on it and the success rate on getting into the NZSAS is like 2% but that doesn't mean I can't do it.

So yeah, bit of a change from the original plan, but it's going to be less hassle and I'll be representing my country rather than the USA. And if I do make it into the NZSAS, well then that's just something I wouldn't trade for anything, much more of a life long goal than the USMC. As much as I wanted to experience the USMC, if I can be a NZSAS soldier then I guess the USMC would seem pretty weak compared to it. And if I fail, I'll probably try again and if I fail again then well I guess I'll just stick to being whatever in the NZ Army.

However, my future outside the Army is still unclear.
--Wolf-- (128)
737976 2009-02-15 10:05:00 This is a really old saw by now.


If it was for oil - then where is it?


We don't have any special buying or seizing privileges on oil. In fact, we are paying a very high price for it.


Out of curiosity, just what is that price nowadays - for 2 grades of petrol & also for diesel?

In litres, please, not gallons.

(Your gallons are smaller than our old imperial measure. So they makes no sense for comparisons)
Laura (43)
737977 2009-02-15 17:37:00 Out of curiosity, just what is that price nowadays - for 2 grades of petrol & also for diesel?

In litres, please, not gallons.

(Your gallons are smaller than our old imperial measure. So they makes no sense for comparisons)

Hm..math again, huh?

OK, I'll try to cipher it out fer ya.

We are paying (today prices in California, not to be confused with the new tax of another $0.20/gallon to go into effect at any moment) $2.29.9/gallon for 87 R+M/2 octane gasoline, which is our national standard.

Diesel is about 15% more dear.

1 US gallon = 3.79 Liters or 1 Liter is almost equal to our quart.

$1.00 USD = $1.919 NZD (current spot value) or almost 1:2

Thumbnail = slightly less than 4 US quarts for $2.30 USD should equal to something-or-other. I think.

Now I need my medication.

I don't see the US rolling in cheap imported oil - I have a buddy from Australia visiting and he's complaining about the cost of fuel here. California, Alaska and Texas are still very large producers of oil.
SurferJoe46 (51)
737978 2009-02-15 17:50:00 State - Price
Low to High


Utah 1.689
Wyoming 1.699
Oklahoma 1.735
New Jersey 1.786
Colorado 1.792
Idaho 1.799
South Carolina 1.801
Texas 1.807
Missouri 1.812
Tennessee 1.833
Montana 1.834
Louisiana 1.839
Alabama 1.839
Delaware 1.840
Virginia 1.844
Arkansas 1.850
Georgia 1.854
Mississippi 1.856
New Hampshire 1.862
Kansas 1.863
Massachusetts 1.898
Washington DC 1.899
Ohio 1.906
North Carolina 1.908
Indiana 1.911
Kentucky 1.913
Maryland 1.936
Michigan 1.945
Minnesota 1.953
New Mexico 1.961
Iowa 1.967
South Dakota 1.975
Nebraska 1.989
Arizona 1.992
Illinois 1.994
Florida 1.997
North Dakota 2.003
Pennsylvania 2.003
Vermont 2.009
Wisconsin 2.018
Maine 2.020
Rhode Island 2.029
West Virginia 2.041
Connecticut 2.042
New York 2.107
Oregon 2.128
Washington 2.141
Nevada 2.214
California 2.274
Hawaii 2.331
Alaska 2.419

Now: Canadian Prices
Corrected to US Measure/Dollar

Province - Price

Ontario 82.671
New Brunswick 83.700
Alberta 86.150
PEI 86.329
Quebec 89.496
Manitoba 89.567
Nova Scotia 90.230
Saskatchewan 93.312
British Columbia 94.364
Newfoundland 95.800
SurferJoe46 (51)
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