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Thread ID: 96534 2009-01-13 22:46:00 Call me heartless SolMiester (139) PC World Chat
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738367 2009-01-14 23:25:00 When i read something like "SolMiester has been killed in a car accident" i'll be sure to call you a stupid IT Technician in your absence for putting a strain on my taxes when a helicopter or ambulance is sent out

Have some god damn respect for the dead,

Having an accident means events happened beyond your control. Now if he deliberately ignored everything and crashed that would be another matter.

In fact people are charged for ambulances and helicopters quite often depending on the circumstances.

And respect the dead? They're dead. They don't care.
This is about the parents of the dead.

They should still pay their bills, why shouldn't they, just because some other family members died? 		pctek (84)
738368 2009-01-14 23:37:00 I'll be sure to keep my eye on the obituaries. When i read something like "SolMiester has been killed in a car accident" i'll be sure to call you a stupid IT Technician in your absence for putting a strain on my taxes when a helicopter or ambulance is sent out to try and collect you.

Have some god damn respect for the dead, regardless whether of they are travelers from out of town, they still deserve all the help that can be offered to try and preserve their lives.

If I go overseas and do stupid things or even not stupid things and die, is that host country expected to pay for me?

If I die in NZ do I expect them to pay for me too? 		Nomad (952)
738369 2009-01-15 00:07:00 If the dead respected the warnings they wouldnt be dead. rob_on_guitar (4196)
738370 2009-01-15 00:14:00 Also, lets do some math here:
How much does it cost to get keys cut? Maybe $120 if you dont have the originals?
Why would these keys cost more? Potentially because they're not just *keys* but have some form of additional security.
For keys to cost somewhere around $800, you would presume they're not just regular keys.

Now if you have spent $3-5K on a car, and have to spend $1000+ fitting it with an alarm etc, then you're probably *NOT* going to want to spend $1600+ making an additional 2 spare sets of keys. You figure 1 set of keys will be enough, and anybody who loses the keys will have to replace them. When they sign up, they probably agree to pay for it out of their own insurance, or pay an insurance excess, who knows?!

But thinking about it, is it really the business owners fault for not keeping additional sets of keys?
I rang 3 car rental places today out of curiosity just to ask them what their practice was, only 1 kept a spare set when the vehicle had been rented out.


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738371 2009-01-15 00:24:00 If I go overseas and do stupid things or even not stupid things and die, is that host country expected to pay for me?

If I die in NZ do I expect them to pay for me too?

Lets drop you somewhere in South America, and say you were being rather mischievous and it got you into a bit of strife, your life depends on a rescue crew coming to your aid.

I guarantee you wont be sitting there all smug thinking "nah, i deserve to die, i'm not from this country".

Are you going to get all patriotic over the millions that NZ give to countries when they are facing disasters? ****, it's not our problem, not our country so why should we care, right?

"****, this guy isn't from South America, he got himself there, we don't give a flying **** if he dies or not, right?"

When a journalist gets nabbed by the Taliban, you could say "he got himself there, he knew the dangers of his job, why should we have to pay the ransom to have him free'd". But i bet you don't bat an eyelid or have the same expression when you are watching the news that HE reported because it sure as hell required him to be mischievous and cunning in another country for him to deliver that information through the idiot box.

I guess i just have more compassion than the average PressF1 user. 		Jams (1051)
738372 2009-01-15 00:28:00 Also, lets do some math here:
How much does it cost to get keys cut? Maybe $120 if you dont have the originals?
Why would these keys cost more? Potentially because they're not just *keys* but have some form of additional security.
For keys to cost somewhere around $800, you would presume they're not just regular keys.

Now if you have spent $3-5K on a car, and have to spend $1000+ fitting it with an alarm etc, then you're probably *NOT* going to want to spend $1600+ making an additional 2 spare sets of keys. You figure 1 set of keys will be enough, and anybody who loses the keys will have to replace them. When they sign up, they probably agree to pay for it out of their own insurance, or pay an insurance excess, who knows?!

But thinking about it, is it really the business owners fault for not keeping additional sets of keys?
I rang 3 car rental places today out of curiosity just to ask them what their practice was, only 1 kept a spare set when the vehicle had been rented out.


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I have a close friend who works for a well known hire company. It is common practice for a Car Rental Company to NOT have spare keys, it gives them reason to charge the fee to have a car towed back to them at the customers expense, as well as a few other fees companies can charge when keys come into the equation. 		Jams (1051)
738373 2009-01-15 00:32:00 Lets drop you somewhere in South America, and say you were being rather mischievous and it got you into a bit of strife, your life depends on a rescue crew coming to your aid .

I guarantee you wont be sitting there all smug thinking "nah, i deserve to die, i'm not from this country" .

Are you going to get all patriotic over the millions that NZ give to countries when they are facing disasters? ****, it's not our problem, not our country so why should we care, right?

"****, this guy isn't from South America, he got himself there, we don't give a flying **** if he dies or not, right?"

Let me guess, you're also the sort of person that smirks and huffs when a journalist gets nabbed by the Taliban, you proclaim "he got himself there, he knew the dangers of his job, why should we have to pay the ransom to have him free'd" . But i bet you don't bat an eyelid or have the same expression when you are watching the news that HE reported because it sure as hell required him to be mischievous and cunning in another country for him to deliver that information through the idiot box .

I guess i just have more compassion than the average PressF1 user .

That's why I pay for my own life insurance mate . I also have travel insurance .

AirNZ didn't fly their family for free, funeral's not free .

Or maybe next time I should take no insurance and expect the host country to pay for me .


Re: the insurance thing with rental car company . It is probably a no frills company that they liked being cheap and optional insurance . If insurance was compulsory they may of went with another renter .

FYI, companies like AVIS, HERTZ has something like a $2,000 excess charge if the vehicle was damaged in an accident . Are they gonna flag the cost too and for every tourist . 		Nomad (952)
738374 2009-01-15 01:28:00 I'll be sure to keep my eye on the obituaries. When i read something like "SolMiester has been killed in a car accident" i'll be sure to call you a stupid IT Technician in your absence for putting a strain on my taxes when a helicopter or ambulance is sent out to try and collect you.

Have some god damn respect for the dead, regardless whether of they are travelers from out of town, they still deserve all the help that can be offered to try and preserve their lives.

Wow, you have a bit of front for a kid, I'll give you that, however perhaps you would care to show me the similarities between being killed in an accident (while obeying rules and regulations) and being killed through NOT obeying rules and regulations?

You are calling for the respect of the dead?, what about the living? Are you old enough to pay taxes yet? I must say I am dumbfounded how you expect a business to bear the brunt of the costs for the blatant disregard of rules and regulations of others just because they are dead? 		SolMiester (139)
738375 2009-01-15 01:52:00 Broke the rules or not, I'm glad NZ is still humane enough to attempt a rescue. qazwsxokmijn (102)
738376 2009-01-15 02:02:00 Agreed. Chilling_Silence (9)
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