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Thread ID: 96498 2009-01-12 08:36:00 Becoming a US citizen...in shortest time possible? --Wolf-- (128) PC World Chat
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737939 2009-01-13 10:07:00 Why is there so much anti-Marine business going on here?

As much as I support our Army, I just wanna do something a little different.

If you want to join the US Army I don't condone it yet it would be an interesting and life changing experiance. I currently have a friend in Marines serving in Iraq, you people have balls man. But you also have to consider the scrutiny the US is currently under, and if you will agree and take the critisism. But I say go forward, it would be awesome.
m3dic (14437)
737940 2009-01-13 10:19:00 There are lots of things I would like to do because not many would consider it, like pole vaulting over the Great Wall of China, or jumping out of a plane without a parachute or being a mercenary, but it doesn't mean I entertain these fantasies over the internet......:)

But seriously, in 3 years time we will still be having this conversation and your military experience won't be much more than it is now. But join the NZ Army and keep pursuing your goal, and 3 years from now you :
a) will have 3 years under your belt;
b) may have changed your mind about military life (trust me, it really isn't like you think it is);
c) loved the experience but are now ready to try something else;
d) have changed your mind about the Marines once you hear what real soldiers have to say, or
e) you might still really really want to join the Marines.

It's not anti-Marines - it's called sharing one's life experiences. Some of us here have military experience. We know what we are talking about. Insofar as joining the #1 military outfit, that would not be the Marines....it's not being anti-Marines, it's called reality.
andrew93 (249)
737941 2009-01-13 11:06:00 So can I ask what your military experience is? --Wolf-- (128)
737942 2009-01-13 18:19:00 www.youtube.com

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martynz (5445)
737943 2009-01-13 18:53:00 The chain of command in the USMC, as in any other military force, is unbroken and leads straight to politicians.

You will not be fighting for your own ideals or the country's - you won't be fighting evil either - you will be placed at risk in order to advance political policy - whether you agree with it or not.
Deane F (8204)
737944 2009-01-13 18:59:00 Good on you WolfForest,
You have a goal in life and there is nothing wrong with being a Marine. Military life is full of rewards. Camaraderie is possibly one of the greatest. And the Marines have that hands down over most other military services.

My suggestions would be:
Talk to the American consulate (suggested already).
Communicate with Marine recruiting (they are sure to have some clues)
Contact Immigration directly in the USA.
Contact the NZ government (not quite sure which department,possibly the department of immigration, but I'm sure many other NZers have emigrated to the US).

Don't just contact one of these, contact them all, try other places as well. The more hooks you have in the water, the more likely you are to get a bite. And Government departments are renown for screwing things up.
porkster (6331)
737945 2009-01-13 19:31:00 d) have changed your mind about the Marines once you hear what real soldiers have to say, or


Wolf, if you do join the military, marines or whatever, you MUST talk to several soldiers first about what it is really like .

SJ wrote: "talk to the Marine Recruiter and make sure that any promises you get are in a written and notarized contract . " - wise words . Recruiters can promise anything but without a written contract all it will be is 'promises' . Beware!!!

dyewitness wrote: "I can't remember the documentary's name . . . might even have been one of Michael Moore's, but it's not being killed that you should worry about, but surviving an attack and being horribly disfigured/disabled for the rest of your life . Imagine how much fun you'll have with half your face missing . " Think about it . Wolf, talk with soldiers about this, and your father .

A military career may turn out to be one of the best decisions of your life - or the worst decision . The problem with youth is that usually the negative aspects are completely ignored .
Strommer (42)
737946 2009-01-13 21:59:00 Trust me, I know what I'd be getting myself into.

I think July this year I'll be spending a week out at Burnham with what they call a Careers Expo for our Army which gives you a taste of army life.

And just for the record:

If I don't/can't get into the Marines/US Army I WILL be joining our Army.

I will look into it more and talk to ex marines etc. Thanks for the input guys.
--Wolf-- (128)
737947 2009-01-13 23:49:00 If you're really serious - go to Washington DC and take a walk around the Viet Nam memorial - talk to some of the Vets that are always there and maybe, just maybe you might reflect on the realities of joining any organisation that is set up to kill people.
You might just end up very dead, and that's not an experience you would want to enjoy.
dvm (6543)
737948 2009-01-14 00:45:00 I find it depressing any young Kiwi would want to go and join the US armed forces primarily used these days to secure corporate profits via military contracts and control of world resources (mainly oil), at the expense of the American tax payer and huge loss of human life .

I can't think of ANYTHING less honorable than joining the US Milletary .

Join the NZ milletary, sure not going to see much action (we hope), but at least you are not being used for profit .
Battleneter2 (9361)
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