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| Thread ID: 96841 | 2009-01-26 00:40:00 | Road Code question | prefect (6291) | PC World Chat |
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| 741995 | 2009-01-26 00:40:00 | I am having an argument with my wife on stopping at stop signs. I say you just have to stop and can be stopped several cars back in a line and can continue forward. My dragon says you have to stop on the yellow line next to the sign. If she is wrong I will make song and dance and show her answer. If I am wrong I wont say another thing. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 741996 | 2009-01-26 00:49:00 | My understanding has always been that you must stop at the yellow line next to the stop. | Marnie (4574) | ||
| 741997 | 2009-01-26 00:59:00 | From the Road Code Stop sign At an intersection controlled by a Stop sign you must: * come to a complete stop, not just slow down * stop where you can see vehicles coming from all directions * stay stopped and give way to all other vehicles (including bicycles, motorcycles etc) * use the give way rules if you and another vehicle are coming towards each other and you are both at Stop signs * not go until it is safe for you and all other traffic. Double or single yellow lines are marked on sealed roads to help you stop where you can best see other traffic. The one in Bold is the one in question -The last line almost contradicts the bold one - But reading the way its written it can be taken both ways. Edited: Quoted from This page here (www.landtransport.govt.nz) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 741998 | 2009-01-26 01:47:00 | Yes my understanding is that if you are the 4th car in a que at a stop sign and are stopped, you and the other 3 cars in front of you do not have to stop again if you have a clear view and there is no other traffic coming. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 741999 | 2009-01-26 01:52:00 | I have always been under the understanding that every car MUST stop at the yellow lines (all wheels fully stopped - not a rolling stop). Stop means stop. The scenario you describe is more like a Give Way (a "Yield" for SJ) sign... Any cops out there who can confirm or deny? |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 742000 | 2009-01-26 02:35:00 | I was told at a defensive driving course some years ago that if your the second car at a stop and you have already stopped then you can proceed without futher stopping. This is designed for a car towing another vehicle. It tried it at a stop sign in Otahuhu in Auckland a couple of weeks later infront of a cop. He didn't budge an eye.. | paulw (1826) | ||
| 742001 | 2009-01-26 03:19:00 | I was told at a defensive driving course some years ago that if your the second car at a stop and you have already stopped then you can proceed without futher stopping. This is designed for a car towing another vehicle. It tried it at a stop sign in Otahuhu in Auckland a couple of weeks later infront of a cop. He didn't budge an eye.. Not true I got a ticket for just that - the critical thing is (obviously) whether the road can be seen to be clear. I thought it was, and it was, but the cop maintained that I couldn't see from where I came to a FULL stop behind the car at the lines in front. It wasn't worth the arguement. |
dvm (6543) | ||
| 742002 | 2009-01-26 03:24:00 | Wainuitech has it correct as I understand it, when he highlights "stop where you can see vehicles coming from all directions". When I was a law student in the mid 1960's, a colleague in the same law firm was charged with failing to stop at a compulsory stop. He was second car at the stop - he came to a complete stop behind the first car, then (seeing the intersection to be clear) he crossed the intersection without stopping again on the line. He was seen and ticketed by a traffic orificer. He pleaded not guilty at the (then) Magistrate's Court, basing his defence on Wainuitech's point, and was acquitted. It is the only logical conclusion - as long as you have stopped and can see the intersection is clear, you should be able to proceed through. Any other conclusion means that you get into an argument about how precise you have to be about where you stop - do your front wheels have to be right on the line, or is ok if you stop a metre so back, a metre and a half, two metres, a car length? How long is a piece of string? |
John H (8) | ||
| 742003 | 2009-01-26 04:45:00 | i would say 95% of stop signs are on intersections where can't see if your 2 cars back. so basicly you have stop anyway, so you might as well stop every time. its a much better habit to get into with the bonus of not having to worry about cops. we have a local intersection here that is only a give way but they look for traffic as they approach and, if clear, they go through at full speed. however they are assuming they are seeing everything. as they are not slowing/stopping to check there is often close calls because they miss seeing a vehicle. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 742004 | 2009-01-26 04:53:00 | They don't know what stop signs are where I live. I have 2 within 5 mins walk of where I live. When I go for a walk I pass them and over 95% of the traffic dose not stop. Even seen big truck and trailers bowling through them without even slowing down. Sometimes the cops sit a couple of hundred metres down the road from them and have a bit of a feast handing out tickets. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
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