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Thread ID: 96799 2009-01-23 05:00:00 Was "P" to blame? Zippity (58) PC World Chat
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741453 2009-01-24 23:39:00 Something strange here, the policeman who shot the innocent bystander is not being stood down from duty.
Possibilities?
Courier driver not so innocent or did something stupid.
Courier man got hit by ricochet (still bad gunmanship, look at arms code)
Courier man hit by both police and crook

Armed police have had a horrible record when they have used guns here. Its not their fault they just don't get enough training. The guy who set up the AOS and run it for moonbeams never even fired his shooter.
In Aussie and USA cops and guns are at one with each other. A cop there is naked unless he is wearing a shooter. Even the Aussie God Squad (HVU) equal
in NZ carry shooters when they are weighing and inspecting trucks 		prefect (6291)
741454 2009-01-25 01:33:00 Clearly the police officer was under the influence of P, why else would you shoot an innocent person. plod (107)
741455 2009-01-25 02:00:00 2) Police members shall not use a firearm except in the following circumstances:

(a) to DEFEND THEMSELVES OR OTHERS (Section 48 Crimes Act 1961) if they fear death or grievous bodily harm to themselves or others, and they cannot reasonably protect themselves, or others, in a less violent manner;

(b) to ARREST an offender (Section 39 Crimes Act 1961) if they believe on reasonable grounds that the offender poses a threat or death or grievous bodily harm in resisting his or her arrest;

AND

the arrest cannot be reasonably effected in a less violent manner

AND

the arrest cannot be delayed without danger to other persons;

(c) to PREVENT THE ESCAPE of an offender (Section 40 of the Crimes Act 1961) if it is believed on reasonable grounds that the offender poses a threat of death or grievous bodily harm to any person (whether an identifiable individual or members of the public at large)

AND

he or she takes to flight to avoid arrest, OR he or she escapes after his or her arrest

AND

such flight or escape cannot reasonably be prevented in a less violent manner.

(3 In any case an offender is not to be shot:

(a) until he or she has first been called upon to surrender, unless in the circumstances it is impracticable and unsafe to do so

AND

(b) it is clear that he or she cannot be disarmed or arrested without first being shot

AND

(c) in the circumstances further delay in apprehending him or her would be dangerous or impracticable 		pctek (84)
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