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| Thread ID: 96799 | 2009-01-23 05:00:00 | Was "P" to blame? | Zippity (58) | PC World Chat |
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| 741423 | 2009-01-24 05:43:00 | What excuses are we going to hear this time for the scumbag who killed the innocent bystander? www.nzherald.co.nz When is the Government going to throw away the keys for these low life cretins? I don't think you should refer to our Police force in those terms. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 741424 | 2009-01-24 05:48:00 | So what you're saying is imprisonment isn't very effective at changing behaviour, in fact most likely makes things worse. The behaviour getting worse is the work of the criminal, Their choices, their decisions. Their neck in the noose. And in the event they continue to wage war against the community, then they require longer sentences, If their offending elevates then the punishment should as well. If that requires locking them in a dark room for 40 years, until they are completely broken then so be it. Far better that they suffer for their actions, rather then innocent members of the community. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 741425 | 2009-01-24 06:02:00 | If that requires locking them in a dark room for 40 years, until they are completely broken then so be it . Didn't Bush try that at Guantanamo Bay? How do you know when they're broken? I thought all inmates turned to God, gave up alcohol and drugs, and found a supportive partner when it came to parole board time? |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 741426 | 2009-01-24 06:15:00 | So what you're saying is imprisonment isn't very effective at changing behaviour, in fact most likely makes things worse. It does **** all. At least a third of prisoners re-offends within a short time frame (IIRC one year). Rehabilitation is not always available, and when available, comes in the form of sporadic sessions and not constant. It's simply not a punishing enough environment to deter a criminal to do the same or other things that will land them back in the slammer. How do I know this? Apart from the second sentence from the above paragraph, the friend who I talked about earlier. He still smokes stuff, gets into brawls, deal weed and what not. That's after being caught and slammed in twice. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 741427 | 2009-01-24 06:18:00 | Didn't Bush try that at Guantanamo Bay? How do you know when they're broken? I thought all inmates turned to God, gave up alcohol and drugs, and found a supportive partner when it came to parole board time? When they can remember no other reality apart from being locked in a cage. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 741428 | 2009-01-24 06:39:00 | It does **** all . At least a third of prisoners re-offends within a short time frame (IIRC one year) . According to Dept of Corrections imprisonment is even less effective than you might think . "Around 68 percent of released prisoners are reconvicted and return to a Corrections-managed sentence, in the community or in prison, within four years of release (the figure for released Māori prisoners is 74 percent)" Corrections add that "well-designed and competently delivered programmes can have positive effects on re-offending rates", but hey I guess they have no money left for that now they're spending all the money building more prisons for those longer sentences . I always find it curious that the policies pursued by "Sensible Sentencing" types are the same ones that are more likely to create more offending . |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 741429 | 2009-01-24 06:47:00 | I hear hanging creates an immediate effect on repeat offending. | Metla (12) | ||
| 741430 | 2009-01-24 06:48:00 | Ain't it funny how it is always the Greens, the Pink Left and the PC Korrect Brigade who say that prison and other retention centres are all bad, yet the majority of us have to suffer from and subsidise these "low lifes" :( Maybe Hitler had it right with such scum. |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 741431 | 2009-01-24 06:52:00 | I always find it curious that the policies pursued by "Sensible Sentencing" types are the same ones that are more likely to create more offending. I find it curious that anyone thinks innocent people should suffer the actions of scum, rather then scum suffering for their actions. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 741432 | 2009-01-24 07:18:00 | I find it curious that anyone thinks innocent people should suffer the actions of scum, rather then scum suffering for their actions . Who thinks that? Looks like it comes down to calling people things like Greens, the Pink Left and the PC Korrect Brigade when you can't argue your case . I'm certainly not green, left or politically correct . In fact if anything it is politically incorrect in this country to question anyone who thinks throwing the key away is the answer . However, granted the nutter in Auckland that started this discussion should be locked away for many a year, I wouldn't have lost any sleep if the Police had hit the right target, but as they didn't, he isn't going to get life as he didn't kill anyone . |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
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