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| Thread ID: 96879 | 2009-01-27 05:12:00 | House wiring and power outlets | Jen (38) | PC World Chat |
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| 742403 | 2009-01-27 22:26:00 | Jen made no comment about the load to be connected, and the other examples quoted (such as an exhaust fan) are usually fixed-wired or placed in locations where nobody could plug in a heavier load. Any three pin outlet could potentially be used (and overloaded) at some point in the future by other tenants, owners, tradesmen, Uncle Tom Cobbley and all, so it is not appropriate to connect any power device to lighting circuits. Even a fixed wiring outlet may later be changed to a 3-pin type by a homeowner and subsequently loaded up with a heater so the risk remains. I have personally seen 1.5mm cable pulled out of walls melted together and short circuited, a possibility increased by the presence of in-wall insulation. In that instance the circuit breaker was deemed to be underrated by a bright spark who upped a 1amp CB to 2.5A. As GF knows, I have some modest background in the regulatory and disciplinary aspects of the electrical industry and coulda/shoulda/woulda has never been accepted as a defence for creating a potential hazard, or by Insurance Companies when declining claims. I'm not suggesting that GF is incorrect in what he says of course, just that sometimes the downstream consequences of an initially compliant installation can be disasterous and this particular example is a time bomb waiting for the fuse to be lit. Put another way, it is not good practice. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 742404 | 2009-01-27 23:37:00 | Jen made no comment about the load to be connected, Even a fixed wiring outlet may later be changed to a 3-pin type by a homeowner and subsequently loaded up with a heater so the risk remains. I have personally seen 1.5mm cable pulled out of walls melted together and short circuited, a possibility increased by the presence of in-wall insulation. In that instance the circuit breaker was deemed to be underrated by a bright spark who upped a 1amp CB to 2.5A. Without a tape based recorder a typical cordless base station should need about 60-100mA 240v. Your example seems extreme, what sort of situation would need that low breaking currents? Most house holders would feel comfortable with 5/6 -10A on Lights and 10 -15/16A on Powerpoints based on Government agency supplied advice. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 742405 | 2009-01-28 04:28:00 | Can you run a telephone extension wire to the power outlet??Because of the wall layout, it would have to go through a door, over the top and then along the wall and down . Don't think it would be the most attractive feature to have in your lounge . The current telephone (minus a power socket) is actually in a purpose built telephone booth/cubby hole with walls on three sides, none of which are connected to any other wall . Bit hard to describe, so I've attached a drawing . Jen made no comment about the load to be connectedThe power point was only to be used for the cordless phone base, but saying that, I wouldn't guarantee someone wouldn't plug the vacuum into it at some stage . :rolleyes: |
Jen (38) | ||
| 742406 | 2009-01-28 05:27:00 | thats an odd shaped house lol Why not ring a sparky and see what your options are? that way you know your within the rules i personally would go with the lightin power thing. A phone isnt going to suck power and im sure you could get one of those covers with writing on them "phone only". Like the shaver power in bathroom sorta thing |
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