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| Thread ID: 97295 | 2009-02-11 04:49:00 | How is the new piracy-disconnection law going to be implemented, technically? | Kindel (6640) | PC World Chat |
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| 746673 | 2009-02-11 04:49:00 | Does anyone know how the ammendment to the copyright act forcing ISPs to disconnect users will actually work? How do they (also, who is 'they' in this case?) monitor it? The old 'sting' method, of hosting files themselves and monitoring who downloads then forwarding the ip to the ISP? | Kindel (6640) | ||
| 746674 | 2009-02-11 05:22:00 | AFAIK the usual method is an agent of the Copyright holder downloading a copyrighted item from somebody seeding then notifying the ISP | PaulD (232) | ||
| 746675 | 2009-02-14 06:07:00 | Yeah, there's been some discussion already elsewhere in these forums. It seems some people have been threatened with disconnection even prior to the law coming into force. They've had notices from their ISP who in turn have had notice from the copyright holders (MPAA naturally) reporting their IP address as having been downloading file XYZ from/via the pirate bay. ISPs can't be responsible for checking the copyright status on everything, as there's plenty of legitimate copyrighted material (eg printer drivers) being downloaded too. So the copyright holder has to take the first step in the process. The suggestion so far is that the ISP says 'cool it for a couple of months' re the copyrighted stuff. After that it's back to normal until the next squeal from the MPAA. Time will tell to what degree this gets used and abused by people on both sides of the equation. Wouldn't want to be an ISP wading in the middle of this mess though. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 746676 | 2009-02-14 06:15:00 | I predict an explosion of file sharing sites, where the users form groups of like minded individuals. Access by invite and password only, so that what the 'cops' can't see, the cops can't complain about. The sharers can always PM each other and be a step or two ahead of the MPAA. Hindsight will probably show it's all a big waste of energy trying to fight the kids, as they have the time and the contacts / network of people in the know. Better to for the media owners to sell it at a price that makes the hassle of covert sharing pointless, and abandon all the copy protection / time limiting / copyright nonsense. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 746677 | 2009-02-14 06:44:00 | Offenders will be switched to Lucas Hi-speed broadband. Virtually disconnected. ;) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 746678 | 2009-02-14 06:56:00 | I predict an explosion of file sharing sites, where the users form groups of like minded individuals . Access by invite and password only, so that what the 'cops' can't see, the cops can't complain about . The sharers can always PM each other and be a step or two ahead of the MPAA . Hindsight will probably show it's all a big waste of energy trying to fight the kids, as they have the time and the contacts / network of people in the know . Closed peer networks will make it very difficult for most people to share files, as it would drastically limit the variety of files available . Thus, the aims of the copyright owners' would be achieved . Better to for the media owners to sell it at a price that makes the hassle of covert sharing pointless, and abandon all the copy protection / time limiting / copyright nonsense . That price is the cost of bothering to look for the torrent and downloading it . I . e . , it is near zero . |
nixon (1956) | ||
| 746679 | 2009-02-14 07:04:00 | That price is the cost of bothering to look for the torrent and downloading it. I.e., it is near zero. Not quite correct - it costs a person in the usage of their band width - I know lots of people ( parents) who are always going over their limit because the kids are downloading and simply don't care - Mum and Dad will pay for any excessive usage. Most video shops have Specials - often I rent a DVD for $1.00 - not exactly expensive, even paying for them from places like Itunes, its quicker ( for me) to walk to the video shop and rent it. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 746680 | 2009-02-14 10:31:00 | I predict a rise in the popularity of Hotspot Shield, a security tool that everyone will suddenly see benefits in having to protect their PC. Stop those snoopers I say. | Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 746681 | 2009-02-14 11:05:00 | Im already a part of a closed share network; it actually has better speeds. the only bummer is you have to be a paying member to request stuff. and as for the ip crap; i have hotspot sheild. HOTSHEILD FTW.... Take that hulu.com + MPAA!!! I got j00! The only problem with hotspot is its decreased speed. |
ZapperBoy10647 (11988) | ||
| 746682 | 2009-02-16 02:07:00 | I think its safe to assume that the ISP's arnt complete idiots & know whats going on with home users downloading Gig's of data. I think they can guess whats in a 650/700M file. You should also assume that the techs working for the isps may have once themselves been downloading from these same sites in the past & know exactly which sites are for directdownloads & forums with links. (as young IT types tend to sometimes do) I have heard (in the past) of an ISP intercepting a download, then asking the user for the RAR password so they can check it & wanting an explaination for the size & amount of downloads. They will make an example of a few downloaders just to get the word 'out there' |
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