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| Thread ID: 97304 | 2009-02-11 08:25:00 | National vs Labour | Poppa John (284) | PC World Chat |
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| 746849 | 2009-02-12 02:45:00 | The twaddle I support is freedom of choice and than is a anathema to the likes of you. Judge Billings Learned Hand on liberty: "And what is this liberty which must lie in the hearts of men and women? It is not the ruthless, the unbridled will; it is not freedom to do as one likes. That is the denial of liberty, and leads straight to its overthrow. A society in which men recognize no check upon their freedom soon becomes a society where freedom is the possession of only a savage few; as we have learned to our sorrow." and "Two conditions are essential to the realization of justice according to law. The law must have an authority supreme over the will of the individual, and such an authority can arise only from a background of social acquiescence, which gives it the voice of indefinitely greater numbers than those of its expositors. Thus, the law surpasses the deliverances of even the most exalted of its prophets; the momentum of its composite will alone makes it effective to coerce the individual and reconciles him to his subserviency. The pious traditionalism of the law has its roots in a sound conviction of this necessity; it must be content to lag behind the best inspiration of its time until it feels behind it the weight of such general acceptance as will give sanction to its pretension to unquestioned dictation." |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 746850 | 2009-02-12 04:27:00 | Actually, Solmeister, National has been very supportive of the Waitangi Tribunal since Jim Bolger and Doug Kidd. Both men were quite moved by what they learned about the Crown's history of abuses when they both started in their portfolios. Actually Dean with an E, supportive has nothing to do with making the deal, that's why Cullen was at the ceremony. What I want to know is when do the rest of the New Zealand citizens get monetary re-numeration for all the abuse suffered from the Maori? |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 746851 | 2009-02-12 04:50:00 | This all reminds of that loathsome git Minto,where is he now,when Rhodesia is being trodden into the ground.? | Cicero (40) | ||
| 746852 | 2009-02-12 05:36:00 | Yes that is right National set up the Waitangi Tribunal and Doug Graham was the minister put in charge of the negotiations. Hon D.A.M. Graham was appointed Minister of Justice, Minister of Cultural Affairs and Minister for Disarmament and Arms Control in November 1990. In 1991 he was appointed Minister in Charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations on behalf of the Crown, and was reappointed to all positions in November 1993. In 1995 he was appointed Minister for Courts to reflect the establishment of the new Department for Courts on 1 July 1995 :) Wasn't he the Minister of Silly Walks as well? Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 746853 | 2009-02-12 06:56:00 | No that was John Clesse. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 746854 | 2009-02-12 07:38:00 | Ditch the Queen become a Republic and the treaty falls over as it was made with the crown, easy. No more payouts to help fund McDonalds and Burger King | gary67 (56) | ||
| 746855 | 2009-02-12 08:06:00 | Ditch the Queen aaaaarghhhhhhh how could you? | prefect (6291) | ||
| 746856 | 2009-02-12 08:16:00 | Ditch the Queen aaaaarghhhhhhh how could you? Why not? What has she done recently for this country? |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 746857 | 2009-02-12 08:20:00 | She dosent have to do anything, she is our Queen. God save the queen. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 746858 | 2009-02-12 08:49:00 | She dosent have to do anything, she is our Queen. God save the queen. Yet your an English basher self admitted but don't want to ditch the Queen. I'm English and she should be kept on over there as she does a lot for the country but here she does not very much at all so yes she should be ditched in favour af a republic would solve the treaty issue as I posted earlier |
gary67 (56) | ||
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