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| Thread ID: 97351 | 2009-02-12 22:57:00 | Taggers Killer Sentence To 4 Years Jail | Trev (427) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 747394 | 2009-02-14 09:37:00 | So home detention for Emery would ensure safety for all New Zealanders from violent and criminal offending??? Come on, Deane, do you really think Emery's going to do something remotely close to what he's done? |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 747395 | 2009-02-14 09:41:00 | Come on, Deane, do you really think Emery's going to do something remotely close to what he's done? Perhaps - perhaps not. The point of his sentence is that he is being punished for what he has already done - and the judge denied him leave to apply for home detention because he felt it was not sufficient punishment to fit the crime. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 747396 | 2009-02-14 10:25:00 | And? I somehow doubt he's gonna go around stabbing innocent people. He's not like a rapist who, after they get out, go back and commit more crimes. What he did was a spar of the moment thing and he must have been extremely angry. The victim being a criminal is irrelevant? Yea I don't think so. Had this kid been a innocent kid walking home from work or something, minding his own business and doing nothing wrong then sure, the killer should rot in jail for a long time. But that's not the case. The kid was out causing trouble. What if someone killed a rapist? Would there be a different public response? I think so. Therefore the victim being a criminal IS relevant. What if the tagger was caught by police tagging that night? What if he attacked the police? What if he had a weapon in which got himself killed by police? Face it. The kid was asking for trouble. Play with fire and you will get burnt. In all that I'm not saying he deserved to get killed, but if he didn't he'd probably be tagging Meltas fence tonight. As I understand it the kid ran away, Emery chased him and stabbed him. So what you're saying is Emery should not go to jail because he was angry, and the victim was a tagger who you think might have hidden tendencies as a murderer and police assailant. I love the way this sensible sentencing works. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 747397 | 2009-02-14 10:55:00 | Just out of interest, can you please explain how you got sentenced without getting a conviction? Its not possible to get convicted of a charge in the youth court, they can only sentence you. however upon proceeding to the district or high court you may be convicted and sentenced EDIT: finally speed read through the rest of the post. basically this is murder. the kid had no way of defending himself and very little in the way of offending against his attacker; not to mention that HE was chased and not the other-way around. this guy should be serving 7+ w/o parole |
ZapperBoy10647 (11988) | ||
| 747398 | 2009-02-14 12:00:00 | basically this is murder. the kid had no way of defending himself and very little in the way of offending against his attacker; not to mention that HE was chased and not the other-way around. this guy should be serving 7+ w/o parole It was a moot point in the end. Murder is commonly thought of as premeditated taking of life - but if you take a life during a spontaneous attack knowing just beforehand that the weapon you are using could cause fatal injury - then you have met the legal test for murderous intent. You don't have to actually plan a murder for it to be considered murder. As far as I can see, Emery's defence against a murder charge was that he did not actually attack the boy, even though he was presenting a weapon that he knew could cause fatal injury - and he managed to persuade the jury of this. He should be thanking his lawyer profusely for getting him off so lightly - with a crappy lawyer things could have gone much worse for him. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 747399 | 2009-02-15 23:36:00 | He thought bringing a knife into the fight would increase his safety? Two unarmed people having a brawl probably isn't going to end up with someone dead. Or even seriously injured. 7+ years for stupidity. |
shermo (12739) | ||
| 747400 | 2009-02-15 23:57:00 | I agree, he should have taken a gun, but 4 years for only taking a knife is a bit harsh. Although I suppose he did let the other sod escape which deserves punishment. |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 747401 | 2009-02-16 00:15:00 | But on the plus side, Emery now gets free meals, free medical, free dental, internet and Playstation, probably Sky TV and a Christmas lunch the envy of struggling pensioners everywhere . And hopefully a medal when he gets out . |
Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 747402 | 2009-02-16 00:41:00 | They get internet now? i might have to go to prison... that sounds like the life | ZapperBoy10647 (11988) | ||
| 747403 | 2009-02-16 06:21:00 | They get internet now? i might have to go to prison... that sounds like the life it probably won't be long before you're in there anyway. |
johnnyfrango (14148) | ||
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