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Thread ID: 97351	2009-02-12 22:57:00	Taggers Killer Sentence To 4 Years Jail	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
747374	2009-02-13 22:18:00	Judges have walls they don't want tagged as well, they know how infuriating it is to have to go out and continuously repaint a wall that is being repeatedly vandalized. Hence the token sentence.	zqwerty (97)
747375	2009-02-13 23:01:00	All those in favor of going and tagging Melta's place raise their hands. Then he may change his tune. The so called victums mother shedding all those crocodile tears on TV last nite made me sick. What was she doing to supervise her vadalistic kid?? Nothing. Bruce Emery chased a boy down the road with a knife, stabbed him, and made no attempt to help him, and then hid the weapon. Why aren't Sensible Sentencing calling for a tougher sentence of twenty years non-parole or more? Bruce Emery is likely to be out on the street in a year, surely the SST should be protesting outside the prison? I don't think Emery should have got twenty years but he should have got the same anyone else would have got for stabbing someone to death, the vicitim being a tagger is pretty much irrelevent. Not clear either why a mother crying for her deceased son would make you sick. Tagging is annoying for sure but it doesn't deserve the death penalty.	Twelvevolts (5457)
747376	2009-02-13 23:11:00	Bruce Emery is likely to be out on the street in a year And? I somehow doubt he's gonna go around stabbing innocent people . He's not like a rapist who, after they get out, go back and commit more crimes . What he did was a spar of the moment thing and he must have been extremely angry . the vicitim being a tagger is pretty much irrelevent . The victim being a criminal is irrelevant? Yea I don't think so . Had this kid been a innocent kid walking home from work or something, minding his own business and doing nothing wrong then sure, the killer should rot in jail for a long time . But that's not the case . The kid was out causing trouble . What if someone killed a rapist? Would there be a different public response? I think so . Therefore the victim being a criminal IS relevant . What if the tagger was caught by police tagging that night? What if he attacked the police? What if he had a weapon in which got himself killed by police? Face it . The kid was asking for trouble . Play with fire and you will get burnt . In all that I'm not saying he deserved to get killed, but if he didn't he'd probably be tagging Meltas fence tonight .	--Wolf-- (128)
747377	2009-02-13 23:40:00	Hmmm . . . . . . . . Based on reading your posts over an extended period Metla, I'm probably right in thinking that you have been in more than a few fights (and/or driving experiences) that might have turned out another way if the unexpected happened, so a little less hubris and a touch more tolerance about the unfortunate outcome in this case might be a good idea . Emery does not look like the kind of guy who habitually carries a knife, and I don't believe he deliberately stabbed the boy in cold blood, and as for taking the knife, the risk to him in chasing wasted taggers was not inconsiderable . The boy was the product of his parenting and the majority of the responsibility for his premature death lies with them . However, if it hadn't happened then, for lack of good parenting it's an odds-on bet he'd have ended up in dead (or in prison, then dead) sooner or later . He had free will and chose how to exercise it as did Bailey Kurariki, another who is destined to live his life more behind bars that outside them . None of that excuses Emery for his role, but his sentence was appropriate for an accidental killing with strong mitigating circumstances . People get far lesser sentences for vehicular homicides when wasted or just plain stupidly negligent . I'll shed no tears over one less tagger and gang prospect . Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
747378	2009-02-14 00:06:00	If I was judge he would have got diversion or some community service. Tagging is infuriating for the tagee some find it more infuriating than others. What sort of Mum leaves her kids and goes to Westralia.	prefect (6291)
747379	2009-02-14 00:25:00	His 15 year old sister has now dropped out of school and spends her days drinking and getting high. Can someone pass me a knife please. Obviously the parents have no control over them at all. The sister will eventually go the way of the Dodo as well.	plod (107)
747380	2009-02-14 01:58:00	What? plain english plz Excuse me for asking but I could not find the word "plz" in my dictionary, What does that word mean please?	Sweep (90)
747381	2009-02-14 02:00:00	Hmmm........ Based on reading your posts over an extended period Metla, I'm probably right in thinking that you have been in more than a few fights (and/or driving experiences) that might have turned out another way if the unexpected happened, so a little less hubris and a touch more tolerance about the unfortunate outcome in this case might be a good idea. Emery does not look like the kind of guy who habitually carries a knife, and I don't believe he deliberately stabbed the boy in cold blood, and as for taking the knife, the risk to him in chasing wasted taggers was not inconsiderable. The boy was the product of his parenting and the majority of the responsibility for his premature death lies with them. However, if it hadn't happened then, for lack of good parenting it's an odds-on bet he'd have ended up in dead (or in prison, then dead) sooner or later. He had free will and chose how to exercise it as did Bailey Kurariki, another who is destined to live his life more behind bars that outside them. None of that excuses Emery for his role, but his sentence was appropriate for an accidental killing with strong mitigating circumstances. People get far lesser sentences for vehicular homicides when wasted or just plain stupidly negligent. I'll shed no tears over one less tagger and gang prospect. Billy 8-{) :thumbs:	mikebartnz (21)
747382	2009-02-14 02:55:00	What a depressing thread this has been. As a fully paid up member of the white middle class I can hardly believe the hypocrisy that has been displayed over this matter. The death of a (polynesian) teenager who sprayed paint on a wall is seen of little consequence compared to the righteous wrath of the owner of the wall. It was the boy's own fault that he died. Oh, and it was his family's fault as well. What an injustice that the perpetrator received a 4 year sentence, but at least if he continues to behave himself he might be out in a few months. Garth McVicar thinks that Emery should have received home detention. One positive outcome of this miserable affair is that it has flushed out the real values and attitudes of the Sensible Sentencing people, and they have certainly blown all their credibility in my eyes. At the end of it all, a boy is dead, his family has been subjected to public vilification from people who do not know them and should know better, and poor old Emery will have to paint his wall when he gets home. Very sad.	Jayess64 (8703)
747383	2009-02-14 03:59:00	so a little less hubris and a touch more tolerance about the unfortunate outcome in this case might be a good idea. Billy 8-{) So, what else would you expect to be tolerated? How about a middle class white kid being chased 300m and stabbed to death by an Indian dairy owner for stealing a packet of chips? I think I'll maintain my position exactly as it is if you don't mind. That aside, I'd be quite satisfied with the sentence, if that was how long he was going to jail for.	Metla (12)
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