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| Thread ID: 97360 | 2009-02-13 02:07:00 | Roundabouts signalling | qazwsxokmijn (102) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 747488 | 2009-02-13 21:09:00 | Oooooooooooh,what does terrible Terry mean by that PC ? | Cicero (40) | ||
| 747489 | 2009-02-13 23:06:00 | Oooooooooooh,what does terrible Terry mean by that PC ? Ah the subtleties of the English language :) The law is not an idiot. It is not the law that is an idiot. It is not that the law is an idiot........ Anyway, there is absolutely no use arguing with us Poms about Roundabouts. We have been building them since 1934, (together with dual carriageways, pedestrian crossing, 'Belisha' beacons etc etc), when most New Zealanders were still living in their raupo whares and roads if there were any, were just dirt tracks :) We grew up with roundabouts, hence by definition know the rules. 31 years ago in the Wellington region there was just one AFAIK, at Seaview. The pictures and the simply written rules in robbyps landtransport web site should be easy enough for anyone to understand. What is not so clever is that the idealised roundabouts shown in the pictures are not always reproduced on the ground, possibly seldomly realised on the ground. This can then lead to argument about signalling. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 747490 | 2009-02-13 23:19:00 | I'm stayin outta this one | gary67 (56) | ||
| 747491 | 2009-02-14 00:01:00 | Depending on "pass" being a vehicular or a medical usage, the outcome for the exit can vary considerably. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 747492 | 2009-02-14 01:30:00 | These are the roundabout rules Sweep www.landtransport.govt.nz Yes? All you have given is a link to the road code which is not the legal situation all the time and is only an interpretation of the law in any event. In the link you posted I will quote an excerpt:- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Multi-laned roundabouts Most roundabouts that have more than one lane in each direction are marked with lanes and arrows, which help you enter and leave the roundabout. The lane markings and arrows will tell you which lane to use. Not all roundabouts are marked the same way, so take extra care – especially at the exits. If you need to cross from one lane to another near an exit, give way to any vehicles in the lane that you want to enter. When coming up to a multi-laned roundabout: try to get into the correct lane give way to all vehicles that will cross your path from your right as you enter the roundabout. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am almost convinced that the word "try" is not enshrined in the law on this subject. Do we get laws like "Try not to murder any person." or Try not to drink alcoholic beverages before you drive." just for example. Say I am sitting at my place having a few and a visitor gets a serious injury and is leaking copious quantities of blood and I decide to take this person to the nearest hospital as I think that by the time I ring 111 and get the service I want I could actually be at the A&E with the patient. In the event I get stopped on the way and undergo a breath test and the subsequent processing the visitor actually dies due to lack of the red stuff that should be under the skin rather than leaking out over my carpet and in my vehicle as well. In my case I will take the consequences of my actions however misguided other people may believe them to be given hindsight and some time to think about the situation they find themselves in. This is not totally hypothetical as was actually faced with this while living in Australia at the time. I was not stopped but I could have been. Circumstances alter cases in any event. Just my view for what it may be worth. The other thing I want to add is I do not want to arrive dead on time and it is better to keep an eye out for what is going on around you and adjust accordingly. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 747493 | 2009-02-14 01:45:00 | If I had a choice of driving pissed to save some ones life or not driving I would take the driving choice. Bit like a rescue chopper trying to fly in bad weather, they still do it. Drove drunk buku times until my thirties and still alive, not proud of it and dont do it any more. Drunk is relative from a bit pissed to legless gyro topple pissed. Seriously, around Auckland some sober drivers are worse than some pissed drivers |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 747494 | 2009-02-14 02:55:00 | If I had a choice of driving pissed to save some ones life or not driving I would take the driving choice. Bit like a rescue chopper trying to fly in bad weather, they still do it. Drove drunk buku times until my thirties and still alive, not proud of it and dont do it any more. Drunk is relative from a bit pissed to legless gyro topple pissed. Seriously, around Auckland some sober drivers are worse than some pissed drivers My point is that I probably was over the limit but I did not take the time give myself a breath test. I could not state for a fact I saved a life here either to be honest. I was not stopped so the facts did not get before a court anyway. Well I just took the chance and it worked out for me at that time and at that place. What am I going to do? Say to the visitor just bleed out and be quiet while doing that!! I do not think so. I might add that the rest of the community supported my actions after the event and that was all the thanks I needed. I might add that I travelled from Terrey Hills to Monavale Hospital NSW in my V8 Holden that afternoon and I used my lights to warn people that I was over the speed limit in a few places and several people pulled over for courtesy. They would have no idea what I was doing or why I was doing it. I put the location in so that the google map experts can figure how far I travelled on that day. Terrey Hills has changed a lot since I was there. I was very near where Dick Smith was living at that time BTW. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 747495 | 2009-02-14 10:06:00 | Yes? All you have given is a link to the road code which is not the legal situation all the time and is only an interpretation of the law in any event. In the link you posted I will quote an excerpt:- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Multi-laned roundabouts Most roundabouts that have more than one lane in each direction are marked with lanes and arrows, which help you enter and leave the roundabout. The lane markings and arrows will tell you which lane to use. Not all roundabouts are marked the same way, so take extra care – especially at the exits. If you need to cross from one lane to another near an exit, give way to any vehicles in the lane that you want to enter. When coming up to a multi-laned roundabout: try to get into the correct lane give way to all vehicles that will cross your path from your right as you enter the roundabout. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am almost convinced that the word "try" is not enshrined in the law on this subject. Do we get laws like "Try not to murder any person." or Try not to drink alcoholic beverages before you drive." just for example. Say I am sitting at my place having a few and a visitor gets a serious injury and is leaking copious quantities of blood and I decide to take this person to the nearest hospital as I think that by the time I ring 111 and get the service I want I could actually be at the A&E with the patient. In the event I get stopped on the way and undergo a breath test and the subsequent processing the visitor actually dies due to lack of the red stuff that should be under the skin rather than leaking out over my carpet and in my vehicle as well. In my case I will take the consequences of my actions however misguided other people may believe them to be given hindsight and some time to think about the situation they find themselves in. This is not totally hypothetical as was actually faced with this while living in Australia at the time. I was not stopped but I could have been. Circumstances alter cases in any event. Just my view for what it may be worth. The other thing I want to add is I do not want to arrive dead on time and it is better to keep an eye out for what is going on around you and adjust accordingly. THe link was to show the situation when going straight through a round about. THis is shown on these pictures www.landtransport.govt.nz & www.landtransport.govt.nz eg you don't signal right at any stage, you only signal left when going out of the round about. I saw many people signalling right today, when going straight, and it just causes confusion. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 747496 | 2009-02-14 10:13:00 | If I had a choice of driving pissed to save some ones life or not driving I would take the driving choice. Bit like a rescue chopper trying to fly in bad weather, they still do it. Drove drunk buku times until my thirties and still alive, not proud of it and dont do it any more. Drunk is relative from a bit pissed to legless gyro topple pissed. Seriously, around Auckland some sober drivers are worse than some pissed drivers The great equaliser is that at peak times they are almost all stopped anyway. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
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