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Thread ID: 97918 2009-03-04 07:01:00 Lets Build a PC March 2009 Metla (12) PC World Chat
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753342 2009-06-10 11:12:00 Wow, thanks for the links. There's certainly plenty to choose from. The AMD X2 5200 and X2 7750 seem to be reasonably cheap. If the mobo has an Nvidia chipset, does that mean the graphics card I buy will have to be Nvidia too? Ancient Engine (14673)
753343 2009-06-10 11:25:00 No if its got a Nvidia chipset the chipset drivers would be Nvidia. The videocard doesnt have to be Nvidia based as well. I've got an old system in the bedroom it uses the Nvidia chipset, but its got an ASUS ATI AGP videocard in it. Speedy Gonzales (78)
753344 2009-06-10 11:28:00 Would this kind of mobo be ok?

www.ascent.co.nz
Ancient Engine (14673)
753345 2009-06-10 11:40:00 That mobo would be fine. It should work no prob at all. One thing to remember tho, depending on what CPU you decide to get for it, I would check the CPU support (support.asus.com) for it, to make sure the BIOS (thats on it) when you buy it, supports the CPU

Otherwise, if you buy a CPU (that the mobo doesnt support, because the BIOS doesnt support it), it wont work (when you put it together). Until you update the BIOS. It looks like it supports AM3, but you may have to update the BIOS first, before you can install an AM3 and it'll work. The specs for it are here (www.asus.com)
Speedy Gonzales (78)
753346 2009-06-10 11:49:00 AE
Some thoughts for you - it's how I planned my build. Don't start with the MOBO - first decide what you want to put on it - then go shopping for one.

EG - first thing you need to decide is CPU. Easy one first up = AMD vs Intel & Quad vs Tri vs Dual. From what I've read on the thread so far, it looks like you're going to go AMD dual. Next question is - are you likely to upgrade the CPU within the next year. If you are - then you need a board that will support AM2 and AM3.

The next question is video card. If you are unlikely in the future to run a dual card set-up, then all you're looking for is a MOBO that supports a single PCIe-16 lane. If you wnat to run 2 graphics cards eventually, you'll have to decide now whether to go ATI or Nvidia. Personally I see little point in SLI/Xfire set-ups unless you are an extreme gamer.

If you're looking to put something together that includes an upgrade path for later, you'll likely have to spend more now - but it will make it cheaper down the road.

The places I usually shop are Computer Lounge, Ascent and iFocus. All have very good service & reasonable prices.

You also want to make sure you don't skimp on the PSU - buy quality (Corsair, Silverstone etc). Never buy generic.

If you can answer the Q's on CPU and graphics intentions, you can then start looking to start putting a package together

**Sorry Speedy - not trying to step on any toes **
Brooko (8444)
753347 2009-06-10 12:13:00 Ok, thanks for that pointer. I'm trying to map out what I might get.

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 7750 AM2+
www.ascent.co.nz
MoBo: ASUS M3N78
www.ascent.co.nz
RAM: Corsair VS4GBKIT800D2 DDR2-800 2x 2GB, DIMM
www.ascent.co.nz
OD: ASUS DRW-22B1LT DVD Writer, DVD 16R/22W/8RW, Internal, SATA, Black, LightScribe
www.ascent.co.nz
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS HDD, 160GB, 7200rpm, 8MB Cache, SATA-2
www.ascent.co.nz


What is the difference between DIMM and SODIMM?

Anyone recommend a good ATI graphics card at 512MB?

Also, of course feel free to correct my choices or recommend alternatives. Your help is muy bueno appreciated.
Ancient Engine (14673)
753348 2009-06-10 12:23:00 Or failing to find an ATI card, I assume an Nvidia would do just as well. Ancient Engine (14673)
753349 2009-06-10 12:34:00 Just getting some info for you from CL.

SODIMMs are lap top only. DIMMs are desktop.

I'm looking for a decent brand ATI 4850 - but so far the GTS250 looks a better 'bargain' buy. If you're not a heavy gamer - it should do the trick. I don't like the ATI 4770's - only a 128 bit bus. I'd really recommend a GTX260 - but I think that's going to be out of your budget ;)

Anyway - back shortly with some rough ideas.
Brooko (8444)
753350 2009-06-10 12:51:00 AE with that mobo you only have 3 SATA connectors by the looks of it, so to keep in your mind later on you will only have 1 spear SATA port as your HDD and DVD drive use 2 on them... Tunez (14674)
753351 2009-06-10 12:59:00 OK - I have to log off shortly - so here's a rough idea. The first board you showed the link for didn't have support for AM3. The one below does. It's limited to 2 Ram DIMMs - but if you're only going 4 Gb, you should be OK. You can't use 2 x DDR2 1066 DIMMs - but you'll only wnat to go 800's anyway. The good thing with C.L. is that their people really know what they're doing - so you can make suggestions to their sales team, and they'll tell you if they are compatible.

Have assumed you want reasonable speed on CPU, with room to upgrade on the board - so AM3 capability. Have also assumed single gfx card.

You can combine parts on C.L. as well - and get additional discounts.

CPU = AMD ATHLON64 X2 5200+ 2.7GHZ SOCKET AM2 - $127.00
MOBO = ASUS M4N78 SE NFORCE 720D DDR2 ATX PCI-E - $ 134.00
RAM = CORSAIR TWIN2X4096-6400C5 2X2GB DDR2-800 XMS2 CL5 - $ 120.00
Together as combo = $ 369.57

OK next = gfx card. Assuming you just want best bang for buck -
ASUS NVIDIA GEFORCE GTS250 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E - $273.00

HDD = WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 320GB 16MB CACHE SATAII - $109.00
PSU = CORSAIR VX450 450W SERIES POWER SUPPLY - $159.00
CDROM = ASUS DRW-22B1ST 22X MULTI DVDR/RW DVD BURNER SATA - $69.00
CASE = ANTEC THREE HUNDRED GAMER CASE - $165.00

Total so far = 1144.57, but all quality parts - built to last. You can use this as a base and trade up/down accordingly to match your budget. Remember - no OS included in this price either ....

Good hunting. Get comments / comparisons from the regulars on the forum. They'll be able to help you refine it down - esp Sol, Wainui, PCT, Blam, Qazw etc.

All of above was from CL, includes GST and delivery. There may be further discounts available - you'd need to check.
Brooko (8444)
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