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Thread ID: 97981 2009-03-06 08:51:00 "Health Minister Riled at DHB Budget defecits" Poppa John (284) PC World Chat
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754041 2009-03-06 23:16:00 Smokers more than pay for themselves by huge tax on fags.
Quite right. I did some work at the largest ciggie company in NZ many many years ago and the annual excise taxes collected from tobacco sales are enough to fund half a dozen or more regional hospitals. I suspect the same goes for taxes on alcohol. But that said, nothing condones alcohol-related accidents, mayhem and domestic violence resulting from misuse of alcohol. How about legalising cannabis and taxing the bejesus out of it - is that an option?

Andrew
andrew93 (249)
754042 2009-03-07 00:31:00 How much tax is there on a packet of butts?
Taxing hooch wont work because the type of person who grows and uses it is likely to want to pay tax on it.
prefect (6291)
754043 2009-03-07 00:46:00 Out of a pack of fags @$10 at least $8 tax. Cicero (40)
754044 2009-03-07 01:00:00 I would say alcohol would be a bigger drain on the health system then tobacco plod (107)
754045 2009-03-07 02:08:00 Like all large business's,hospitals are very inefficient,made worse by nobody seeming to be responsible for the outcome per $.

There is a small free hospital in Ch Ch,I have spoken to the people who run it,I asked if it was possible to improve the public sector,they said yes,but it is not going to happen,all bureaucrats are safely ensconced.
Cicero (40)
754046 2009-03-07 03:46:00 If the DHBs dont have the money they have to cut something. There arent any money trees around.

Cut out some of the management levels and consultants..
paulw (1826)
754047 2009-03-07 07:05:00 I would say alcohol would be a bigger drain on the health system then tobacco

This is so true,
Try standing in the A&E department at night, see how many alcohol related admissions compared to smoking related admissions.

To prop up our health system we should tax alcohol in a similar manner to tobacco. This will help the lack of money and decrease the strain on resources.
porkster (6331)
754048 2009-03-07 08:09:00 There is enough tax on piss already.
Drinkers like me shouldn't have to suffer because some people cant handle their piss.
I have been making my own rum, when I perfect the recipe and find some way to make rum that isnt sickly sweet I wont have to buy it.
I would love to be able to make my own vodka but I dont think I could ever get the quality good enough. 26000 vodka and V or red bull mix man its good.
The smoker admissions come in quietly to die, the clowns who cant hold their piss covered in blood are a different story
prefect (6291)
754049 2009-03-07 09:12:00 As a smoker and a fat bastard, I find your comments rather offensive.
But if we are talking about banning the drains on our hospitals, we should also include runners, drivers, and the elderly. Because lets face it, no point on giving medical treatment to old people that haven't long to live anyway.
I object to treating infants since they are so easily replaced. (It takes many years to make old people.):spam
R2x1 (4628)
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