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Thread ID: 106917 2010-01-28 03:15:00 USB to disk Connector for mini-hard disk? Billy T (70) Press F1
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852793 2010-02-05 04:50:00 Update Time: :illogical

Yesterday afternoon I went into the new shop with the HDD, the gutted MP3 player, and an Iomega 250GB USB hard drive to copy to.

Five techs were working industriously on laptops and there was a receptionist at the front desk so they seem to be well established. All were immigrants but all those I spoke to were pretty fluent in english so there were no language problems, however comprehension was sadly AWOL.

I explained that the mini-HDD came from the MP3 player and showed them the player. I said that the battery charging circuit died and that I didn't know if the HDD was still ok but there was no reason why it shouldn't be.

Then I asked three questions:

Can you check to see if this drive still works?

If it does, can you drag and drop the 4GB contents to this 250GB external drive?

How much $?

It was all downhill from there. The Toshiba hard drive caused much (loud) chatter that I couldn't understand of course, no criticism there, but they seemed to think that the Iomega drive was an MP3 player, despite the USB cable hanging out of it and the absence of any controls. After they shouted at each other and waved their arms for a while we seemed to get past that.

At one stage they seemed to think I wanted the Toshiba drive installed in the Iomega case but we got past that too.

Then they thought I wanted them to fix the MP3 player, so I said no, it is dead, and put it in my pocket to remove the distraction.

After 10 minutes I think we finally got to :check HDD >if ok >transfer data,
but where to and how remained unresolved. The only words of importance that I could follow were "60 dollars" and I am quite certain that not one of them really understood what I was asking them to do. In my view the potential risk to the disk contents was too great so I left.

I thought it was just me being obtuse with my request, but I went around the corner to another computer shop, operated by similar immigrants and asked the same questions. They understood completely at the first pass, but didn't have the IDE to 50-pin adapter with 5 volt to 3.3 volt reduction, and I was on my way in 2 minutes.

I would have thought that a laptop specialist would be able to check a mini laptop hard drive, but there you go! Looks like I'll have to buy my own adapter and do the job myself! I don't really think $60 would be a fair charge to connect up a hard drive and if it worked, plug in the Iomega and drag & drop the contents.

I would have accepted a $30 charge because it would have saved me a whole lot of bother, but there you go..........

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :confused::confused:

these drives you speak about are not usually used in laptops, in fact I don't know of a single laptop that uses that size drive. I stand to be corrected.
Surely your son has all his music on a computer some where? 'Back up back up back up
plod (107)
852794 2010-02-05 05:01:00 I hope also that you checked their passports to ensure none were citizens or in fact born in NZ. Sweep (90)
852795 2010-02-06 00:48:00 Surely your son has all his music on a computer some where? 'Back up back up back up

I chanted the back-up mantra to him so many times it wasn't funny but even after I persuaded him to buy the Iomega USB drive he still failed to make a backup. You can lead a horse to water etc etc.........

Conversely, everything on my MP3 is backed up twice.

I have ordered the adapter from the States for about $US3.50 with free shipping world wide. Yeah, I thought, on a US$3.49 sale???

I'll wait and see but all indicators on the site were yes, worldwide airmail.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
852796 2010-02-13 02:25:00 Well, the adapter arrived in double quick time, airmail and all, despatched from Hong Kong.

The plug fits the drive OK but before I plug it into my external USB drive enclosure I have one question:

The ad said IDE to 1.8HDD adapter, but the web image showed ATA to 1.8 HDD and that is what has arrived. Is this compatible with a USB drive enclosure that currently holds an IDE disk and should it work, or do I risk stuffing the 1.8 HDD in some way? The adapter includes voltage regulation down to 3.3 volts so power supply is not a problem.

Son is champing at the bit to find out if his music is safe and I'll be under pressure to fire it up tomorrow!

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
852797 2010-02-13 04:01:00 Serial ATA is SATA Parallel ATA is IDE gary67 (56)
852798 2010-02-13 04:10:00 It may work in your enclosure, if it doesn't, open up your PC and connect it to an IDE connector in it. KarameaDave (15222)
852799 2010-02-13 04:17:00 You beat me to it, Karamea.

Go on, hook it up. We can't stand the tension!
linw (53)
852800 2010-02-14 00:42:00 Well, I hooked it up in the USB enclosure, the computer recognised a new USB device and went through the reboot thing after that, but no new USB drive appeared. :(

The 5 volt to 3.3 volt regulator was getting rather hot so I have stopped proceedings to put a heat-sink on it in case the drive is throwing a short onto the output. At this stage, with the drive removed, it is still providing 3.3 volts on its output.

I'll research the pin connections for the 1.8 drive tomorrow and see if there is a short there when cold, and if there is, that will be a definitive answer I'm afraid, otherwise I'll try again and see what I get.

Being Valentine's day, I am only allowed in my office or on the computer to do things that Mrs T wants. :xmouth:

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
852801 2010-02-14 01:17:00 Not really what we wanted to hear!! Good luck, anyway. linw (53)
852802 2010-02-14 03:57:00 Being Valentine's day, I am only allowed in my office or on the computer to do things that Mrs T wants .

SWMBO is sitting at the other computer next to me in the office :punk
gary67 (56)
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