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| Thread ID: 98010 | 2009-03-07 09:54:00 | F*** this recession. | bob_doe_nz (92) | PC World Chat |
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| 754452 | 2009-03-07 21:07:00 | [QUOTE=Nomad; I have know people who were team administrators, executive assistants, administration assistatns, project co ordinators, project administrators . Well to me all those sort of jobs look like superfluous in tough times. In company with all those positions who actually does the work ie who makes the widgets? |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 754453 | 2009-03-07 21:33:00 | I have know people who were team administrators, executive assistants, administration assistatns, project co ordinators, project administrators . Well to me all those sort of jobs look like superfluous in tough times. In company with all those positions who actually does the work ie who makes the widgets? In a large organisations, you always need a PA to help the manager. Some projects may not have a PA and they have a co-ord or a administrator who goes to meetings and takes minutes, write them out and assist in diary management, travel bookings, monthly financials, write meeting agendas and organise the attendees into their calendars. Surely the Analyst or Manager are not going to do that. If they are busy they may even share the work around, if if the administrator has some free resources he/she may be asked to help or they could volunteer to help others in report writing. Ie., weekly team meetings, monthly Quarterly meetings, meetings with other B2B arrangements. Organise seminars, processing of invoices. Paper filing comptuer and the physical foldes, archiving materials to conform to the Records Management Act. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 754454 | 2009-03-07 21:40:00 | archiving materials to conform to the Records Management Act. Is that like at work where we write 2008-2009 on a cardboard box fill it with last financial years paperwork and put in the ceiling above the smoko room? Meetings are all well and good and shiny ass office staff play with paper and computers but who produces stuff to pay their wages? |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 754455 | 2009-03-07 21:49:00 | Is that like at work where we write 2008-2009 on a cardboard box fill it with last financial years paperwork and put in the ceiling above the smoko room? Meetings are all well and good and shiny ass office staff play with paper and computers but who produces stuff to pay their wages? Small org may get away from it but larger orgs .... I guess that is just the cost of running the office ... labour cost. The org may get audited if they don't do theirs. No cardboard box. It means external auditors can audit the large org. Which means you have the impt meetings mins and agendas stored, have all the draft versions and final versions as well as any other impt documents / reports worked on. Email are also archived in same fashion, as well. Can be physical, electronic or voice ie., phone recorded messages. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 754456 | 2009-03-07 22:23:00 | I'm not on the dole (nor will I ever be) and I'm with Kellys. No replies from them... Perhaps I should just go down south and start panning for gold for a living. ;) OK. You do not have a job. You presumably can only travel by public transport as you do not drive a car. My question now is how do you pay your outgoings? I take it that you have the internet and you actually eat food as if you do not you will starve. These two are costs. You don't have to have the internet. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 754457 | 2009-03-07 22:24:00 | Hi Prefect There are a number of inter-relationships between jobs such that no one job can claim to be any more important than others. Granted someone has to make the widgets but ask yourself who pays their wages? Where do the materials come from to make the widgets? Who makes sure the materials are there when needed? Before the payroll person can pay the wages, where does the money come from? Who chases up the slow payers? Who makes the sales to give rise to making money? Who pulls the whole team together to make sure everyone is working in the same direction? And so on and so on.....granted some roles are superfluous and parts of some organisations are inefficient, but IMO sweeping statements about the makers of widgets being the people who make the money is a bit simplistic. Andrew |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 754458 | 2009-03-07 22:44:00 | You can always do what I did - Cold Calling - dont wait for a job to appear - Grab the phone book - get on the phone, go to places and ask - that shows you are prepared to get off your butt and be pro active. Ok you may get 9 out of ten saying No sorry, you may get interviews ( foot in the door) -you never know. Out of the 4 interviews I went for NONE were actually advertised jobs. I did that for a total of 3 weeks every day - then I had one guy say to me - cant take you on full time but I can offer contract work when its there - that was a start. - in the time I was with that person I think there was maybe 2-3 days of no work over the year. After 1 year I decided to start my own business ( he suggested it, that way when he didn't have work I may get my own) - only worked for another week for him after that - and thats the end of the story - still going, working for myself, and looking back since I started the business - only had 1 day that I have not had any work. The Point of the above - get off your butt and go look for jobs, COLD CALL, jobs wont come to you. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 754459 | 2009-03-07 22:47:00 | OK. You do not have a job. You presumably can only travel by public transport as you do not drive a car. My question now is how do you pay your outgoings? I take it that you have the internet and you actually eat food as if you do not you will starve. These two are costs. You don't have to have the internet. I'm paying off my internet with my money in my bank account. And I'm living off brekkie cereal and muesli bars with lots of water. |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 754460 | 2009-03-07 23:09:00 | Grrr. Currently unemployed, been sending CV's left right and centre with no replies. Got family nagging me about why I don't have a job.... Why did you leave your other job? |
FoxyMX (5) | ||
| 754461 | 2009-03-07 23:22:00 | Why did you leave your other job? Stress was one thing. Wanted to focus on I.T related work as well. |
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