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Thread ID: 98266 2009-03-18 00:43:00 Burt Munro's bike up for sale John H (8) PC World Chat
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757281 2009-03-18 04:51:00 There are pics of the inline Dougie here

www.yesterdays.nl

Talking of Vincents, well they were mentioned, they were the 'super bikes' of their day.

A bog standard 1000cc Rapide twin would do the standing 1/4 mile in around 14 secs. It was somewhat slower than the Dougie.

Club sprinters like 'Deafy' Mills could get their big twins to do around 11-13 seconds, whereas super sprinters like George Brown on Nero running on nitro got times down to the 9 secs mark, and I think lower on Super Nero

American timing and start methods were a bit different to the British, it gave them about a second advantage. So their times were always better than the Brits.... until they competed on equal terms. This was when sprinting used real bikes and before the advent of 'Drag' racing with machines that didn't look like motorbikes.

A bog standard Z1 would do a 12 sec quarter mile.
prefect (6291)
757282 2009-03-18 05:07:00 There are pics of the inline Dougie here

www.yesterdays.nl

Talking of Vincents, well they were mentioned, they were the 'super bikes' of their day.

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A really beautiful looking bike Terry. How did the Brough Superior match up to the Douglas and Vincent?
John H (8)
757283 2009-03-18 05:45:00 A bog standard Z1 would do a 12 sec quarter mile.

The Z1 wasn't designed during the war and built in 1946 :)
Terry Porritt (14)
757284 2009-03-18 05:57:00 A really beautiful looking bike Terry. How did the Brough Superior match up to the Douglas and Vincent?

Well the Brough was the super bike of its day too.

There is a fine story (that was reproduced in the Vincent OwnerMagazine once) about TE Lawrence racing his Brough against a Bristol Fighter.

There is another story that George Brough had a bit of a run in with RollsRoyce because he called his bike the Rolls Royce of Motorcycles, but the outcome was amicable.

Its pre-war rival would have been the Series A Vincent Rapide, 'the plumbers nightmare'.
I think the Brough was probably better made than the Series A.
Terry Porritt (14)
757285 2009-03-18 07:53:00 There has been a motor cycling programme on TV occasionally - but I don't know the channel or the name of the programme... Howsomever, there is a segment in the programme where some old English buffer takes some of the classic bikes for a spin.

He has been out on a Brough Superior and a Vincent but I have only lucked on to the programme whilst channel surfing, and have only seen part of each of those segments. Highly intelligent and in depth reviewing, and lots of lovely footage of him trundling around the English lanes on these machines, with plenty of throaty bellowing from the exhausts. As I recall, he was mightily taken with both the Brough and the Vincent. They both looked and sounded gorgeous.
John H (8)
757286 2009-03-18 17:26:00 The beast went for $71,000 at the auction. Buyer bought it on impulse.

Wish I had $71,000 to spend on impulse!!


Ken :dogeye:
kenj (9738)
757287 2009-03-18 18:03:00 I would like to te papa buy it, would be a real treasure for NZ held in perpetuity.
They spend a lot more on stupid works of art.
Said to hear Cust races dead do they still do a rally there? like Hawkesbury?Assuming you mean the Museum of NZ,what is the point of putting a vellocette in there,when the bike in question was an Indian.?
Or so Billy says and I believe everything he says.
Cicero (40)
757288 2009-03-18 18:03:00 "What is being offered here today is a remarkable piece of history that has had numerous rebirths throughout its development."

Sounds like the story of Grandfather's axe. I've seen a few racing bikes 20 or 30 years later and they were more replica's than original considering the number of parts changed.
PaulD (232)
757289 2009-03-18 20:53:00 Changing parts is essential to racing, if parts don't break the thing isn't developing enough power. The perfectly tuned bike should self destruct 3 metres past the finish line, totally worn out. R2x1 (4628)
757290 2009-03-18 22:37:00 The beast went for $71,000 at the auction . Buyer bought it on impulse .

Wish I had $71,000 to spend on impulse!!


Ken :dogeye:

That is one heck of a price to pay for a name . The bike itself is worth nowhere near that, if it had been owned by Joe Bloggs, then maybe it would have fetched say at a guess $2000???

One of the nicest Velocettes ever made was the overhead cam KTT:

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. motosolvang . com/bike_pages/1951_Velocette_KTT_Mark_8 . htm" target="_blank">www . motosolvang . com

I had the privilege of "looking after" a 350cc KSS modified to KTT for some months at weekends when the owner who was in digs used to go home .

It had the big bronze cylinder head of the KTT, alloy guards and rims, KTT petrol tank, and the front girder forks spring and friction pad dampers had been replaced with a Monroe hydraulic spring/damper unit .

It was a dream to ride and I sometimes took it to the Coventry VOC club meeting rooms at "The Phanthom Coach" pub .

It was some 5mph or so faster than a 500cc Vincent Comet .
Terry Porritt (14)
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