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Thread ID: 98233 2009-03-16 07:55:00 Crime around community and surveillance system? CCF (6760) PC World Chat
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756926 2009-03-16 20:23:00 Why is someone with an arm across their tummy suspicious? Maybe they had a pain......



Would carrying your valuables in a duvet rather than stuffed up their jumper make it more obvious?
PaulD (232)
756927 2009-03-16 20:46:00 [QUOTE=Just ring your local police station (not 111!!!), or if you have one in your area, the local crimeline. I know some regions have an 0800 number to anonymously report crimes (or suspected crimes) - i.e. in Hawkes Bay it was 0800 567 789 or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Don't even bother if it is after hours, only ring 111 if you want the call answered - That's advice from the police (North Shore) the next day. They say let them prioritise it (from 111) at night, they don't answer the ordinary number at night, just in business hours
Ofthesea (14129)
756928 2009-03-16 22:08:00 Good ideas here.

In the event I want to commit a burglary I have decided to dress up as a pregnant drag queen complete with makeup. This is to hide my ill gotten gains in my rather large front and also to hide my male gender. I have not yet figured out how to fit a mountain bike and a scooter there yet but I'm certain that some person will invent collapsable items much like the guy that on TV takes his whole life with him. :waughh:
Sweep (90)
756929 2009-03-16 23:19:00 Hi there all

Just like to ask a few questions in regards to crime watch around neighbourhoods and what services are in place to allow a community to reduce the crime around our environment. And also a few questions in settings a home surveillance system.

1) Say I came across some very suspicious 'people' who just left our neighbour house looking very suspiciously (eg holding their arm around their tummy, another person standing out at the drive way watching). Can I report such activity to the police? Even if I didnt manage to get their car rego number, what can I do, other than telling that neighbour what happened.

2) Are there some guidelines or rules that I should follow if I wish to setup a home suspicious around my house. Eg must have sign indicating surveillance is in place? And how strict must I follow these rules Or better yet, where can I find these rules?

3) Any one know any good surveillance dealers out there? Online or instore, Im up in auckland. :confused: Been thinking of buying parts from TM...is it cheaper on TM or are retail shops cheaper?

4) I already have a home alarm system in place but no insurance, what will be the next best thing to do in regards to home protection? Sadly insurance would be nice, but the cost atm....is really a bit too much with my current income.


The reason why im asking this is because just recently my scooter (yes a scooter) and a cheap mountain bike was stolen from my own backyard during some late night. And witnessing these suspicious people around our place today, has really got me thinking that IF they actually broke into my house, the amount of things that I'll lose will be enormous. But then again constantly fearing that my house will be broken into is not an option as well... :(


Please advise :)

Firstly if you do spot anything that you think is suspicious, yes report it to the police. Also tell your neighbor what you saw as well.

You want to set up a surveillance system, yet you say you don't have money for contents insurance, get an insurance broker to find you the cheapest deal for you. I would spent money on Insurance first. For CCTV to work they need to be recording 24/7 or someone watching 24/7. A lot of people mount the cameras too high, so you end up filming the top of peoples heads. Also people will wear hoodies to cover their faces as well.
In regards to rules about CCTV I think as long as it is not filming a footpath or any public areas or your neighbors bedroom window, then it should be fine, but check with your local council.
You say you have an alarm on the house. What about your locks ? Make sure you have high quality deadlocks on your doors and easy to reach, hidden from view windows.
You could also put some lighting out the back, But not to bright as they easily hide in the shadows, dimmer lighting is better.
wmoore (6009)
756930 2009-03-17 03:54:00 Thanks for the replies so far .

Yes having the $$ to spend on CCTV and not insurance seem strange . However if you look at it in the long run, CCTV is only a one off payment, which at the moment i think I can get a full setup at around $500 . While insurance is an on-going payment . Of course Im not saying that insurance is not a good option, is just in the short run, the cost for getting a insurance is not the best option for me with my current income . And also, insurance are good for things that are 'replaceable' and some things that I have in the house, really is just not replaceable, at all . . . .

As for the basic security setup, such as deadlocks and proper lock for windows etc, they are in place . This is not the first time that my property has been burgled, in fact this would be the 10th ten in the past 12yrs that I've been here . So basic security and locking mechanism is already in place, but really with all the locking mech in place, nothing can really can prevent a good old brick and a reachable window .

I do understand that even with the CCTV in place, it cant really prevent my place from being burgled . But at least (with proper setup) the CCTV will be able to capture an accurate description of the culprit, you know what they say, a picture is worth a thousand words .

But really the purpose of the CCTV is not to capture the face of potential criminals (will be great if it did) but to gain a better understanding and idea on what/when/who and how on the situation of my place . Example CCTV picks up a suspicious guy who always knocks on my door everyday at 2pm or trespassing, with that I'll know that some thing is about to happen and may be able to arrange some one to stay home or drop by around that time to check up on the place .

Police wont act on CCTV captures? Personally I believe if the capture is good, then I dont see a reason why they wont use it . Obviously there wont be an instant capture/arrest, thats just proper expectation, no 'one' footage can lead to a full arrest . Of course not all footage will be good, that I know ^^ .

Because this isnt a commercial surveillance, I dont see the need to have the CCTV constantly turned on or monitored, just when Im away .

Yes some body holding their tummy is not really considered suspicious, but thats only part of the act . What if I included that before she left the property she was very nervous, constantly checking the left and right before making out on to the footpath and then got into a car some 30m down the road? :rolleyes:

So yeah, very much appreciated for all the replies, more comments or suggestions are welcome :)
CCF (6760)
756931 2009-03-17 04:02:00 An insurance policy will ensure that anything replaceable will be replaced in event of theft.

A CCTV system will only ensure that you _might_ capture the person's face, and _if_ they are caught they _might_ be prosecuted. If they are found guilty, they _might_ be forced to pay you reparation - and even then, they _might_ actually pay it.
somebody (208)
756932 2009-03-17 04:05:00 If you've got a webcam, there are programs that can "capture and record" whoever, to a hdd, and take pics and upload them to whatever / whoever.

ie: This for example (http://www.gotchanow.com/)

BUT its not free

There are also programs, that let you login remotely, so you can see whats going on (via a browser), if youre not there ( I think the above is one of them)
Speedy Gonzales (78)
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