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Thread ID: 98191	2009-03-15 00:55:00	Woolworths can stick their OneCard up their...	johnnyfrango (14148)	PC World Chat

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756524	2009-03-15 02:22:00	Woolworths should get rid of their Onecard and stop ripping off unsuspecting customers with their dual-pricing Its not a rip Off, if you have a onecard and that gives you some discounts over regular pricing and are to lazy to use it, or to stupid to not take it its not the shops fault. Hell its only like a credit card, stick it in your wallet. Discounts are damn good , we normally shop at Pack N save in Petone, only because it suits us - and they have one major advantage - Good petrol discounts. Spend $150 or more (and thats easy to do) and you get a good discount on petrol - We regularly get anywhere from 10 -20 Cents per/litre off - now thats a saving worth having. BUT as speedy said - no ones forcing anyone to shop at Woolworth's / Countdown - if you dont like it go someplace else. leave the Onecard for people who actually appreciate getting discounts. We have just come back from Countdown to get a few small things we ran out of - surprise surprise all the items we got were discounted by using the Onecard. WHY?? because as its been mentioned we looked at what we were buying.	wainuitech (129)
756525	2009-03-15 02:38:00	Its not a rip Off, if you have a onecard and that gives you some discounts over regular pricing and are to lazy to use it, or to stupid to not take it its not the shops fault. Hell its only like a credit card, stick it in your wallet. Discounts are damn good , we normally shop at Pack N save in Petone, only because it suits us - and they have one major advantage - Good petrol discounts. Spend $150 or more (and thats easy to do) and you get a good discount on petrol - We regularly get anywhere from 10 -20 Cents per/litre off - now thats a saving worth having. BUT as speedy said - no ones forcing anyone to shop at Woolworth's / Countdown - if you dont like it go someplace else. leave the Onecard for people who actually appreciate getting discounts. We have just come back from Countdown to get a few small things we ran out of - surprise surprise all the items we got were discounted by using the Onecard. WHY?? because as its been mentioned we looked at what we were buying. They're hardly 'discounts'. Not when the original prices are over-inflated. And the same goes for petrol vouchers. It's all factored into the price at the pump. Without the scheme, we should ALL be paying a bit less at the pump. The scheme is there simply to make extra money out of those who don't participate, for whatever reason. There's no benefit to the consumer whatsoever. I seem to remember the pump prices taking a jump when the scheme was introduced. The onecard system is the same. It's a penalty system rather than a reward system. That's why I don't mind flybuys. If I don't take my card or choose not to participate, then I can still purchase the items at the same price as everyone else. Hence the reason why I shop where I shop.	johnnyfrango (14148)
756526	2009-03-15 02:49:00	What a pointless thread. For once youre right :p	Speedy Gonzales (78)
756527	2009-03-15 02:55:00	For once youre right :p And if you don't like a thread or post, no-one's forcing you to reply. Simply move on. Not rocket science. :D For such a pointless thread, you sure did spend a fair amount of time replying.:thumbs:	johnnyfrango (14148)
756528	2009-03-15 03:00:00	When you're stacking up grocery items at the checkout line, you're probably not worried about whether your supermarket chain is compiling a profile of you based on what you buy, and storing that information for its own use . After all, who cares if you buy one brand of tissues over another, or favor name-brand microwave pizzas over store brands? Supermarket chains care . So does CVS . They use the cards to keep tabs on what you purchase, how often you shop, and what your buying preferences are . The question then becomes, what is more important -- saving money or protecting your privacy? What's The Big Deal? Many shoppers are increasingly aware that loyalty cards are being used to compile profiles of their shopping habits for later use, and that this data can be farmed out to business partners, telemarketers, and direct-mail solicitors . What isn't public knowledge, however, is how often discount card programs themselves are outsourced to other companies . Running a loyalty card program is big business, and often incurs heavy administrative costs . The loyalty software maintains a complete database of all customer rewards and reward suppliers . The amount of data collected via loyalty card programs would be the envy of any information broker, and supermarket chains do not hesitate to share it when they wish . Buying condoms? Must mean you're sexually active, and possibly an unfit parent or health risk . Buying weight-loss diet pills? You might end up with a higher health insurance premium or unexpected physical evaluation at your job . Moreover, studies have found that loyalty cards' primary purpose -- to offer savings to members -- do no such thing . In fact, stores that use loyalty card programs actually increase the regular prices of items for non-club members, making purchases more expensive for all buyers and reducing the margin of card members' saving to almost nothing . "Everyday" items can be marked up from 28-71% after card programs are introduced . The most subtle and insidious side effect of loyalty programs appears to be a growing "class" strategy of marketing, focusing on the richest and most frequent shoppers and excluding "negative return" or "undesirable" customers . I don't use any of them .	pctek (84)
756529	2009-03-15 03:04:00	And if you don't like a thread or post, no-one's forcing you to reply. Simply move on. Not rocket science. :D For such a pointless thread, you sure did spend a fair amount of time replying.:thumbs: Why not theres no law to say I cant	Speedy Gonzales (78)
756530	2009-03-15 03:09:00	When you're stacking up grocery items at the checkout line, you're probably not worried about whether your supermarket chain is compiling a profile of you based on what you buy, and storing that information for its own use . After all, who cares if you buy one brand of tissues over another, or favor name-brand microwave pizzas over store brands? Supermarket chains care . So does CVS . They use the cards to keep tabs on what you purchase, how often you shop, and what your buying preferences are . The question then becomes, what is more important -- saving money or protecting your privacy? What's The Big Deal? Many shoppers are increasingly aware that loyalty cards are being used to compile profiles of their shopping habits for later use, and that this data can be farmed out to business partners, telemarketers, and direct-mail solicitors . What isn't public knowledge, however, is how often discount card programs themselves are outsourced to other companies . Running a loyalty card program is big business, and often incurs heavy administrative costs . The loyalty software maintains a complete database of all customer rewards and reward suppliers . The amount of data collected via loyalty card programs would be the envy of any information broker, and supermarket chains do not hesitate to share it when they wish . Buying condoms? Must mean you're sexually active, and possibly an unfit parent or health risk . Buying weight-loss diet pills? You might end up with a higher health insurance premium or unexpected physical evaluation at your job . Moreover, studies have found that loyalty cards' primary purpose -- to offer savings to members -- do no such thing . In fact, stores that use loyalty card programs actually increase the regular prices of items for non-club members, making purchases more expensive for all buyers and reducing the margin of card members' saving to almost nothing . "Everyday" items can be marked up from 28-71% after card programs are introduced . The most subtle and insidious side effect of loyalty programs appears to be a growing "class" strategy of marketing, focusing on the richest and most frequent shoppers and excluding "negative return" or "undesirable" customers . I don't use any of them . I take it you don't use the petrol discount vouchers	plod (107)
756531	2009-03-15 03:12:00	Moreover, studies have found that loyalty cards' primary purpose -- to offer savings to members -- do no such thing. In fact, stores that use loyalty card programs actually increase the regular prices of items for non-club members, making purchases more expensive for all buyers and reducing the margin of card members' saving to almost nothing. "Everyday" items can be marked up from 28-71% after card programs are introduced. I don't use any of them. I know - they just push up prices for everyone. I shop in Foodtown as its closest but cannot be botherd to take a card. When they ring up the price I tell em theyve overcharged me but I insist on the discount anyway. Then they have to piss around, get their boss to come out and keys to bring out the store card and give the proper price. A real pain in the ass for them :lol: I just tell em to gimme the best price or I go elsewhere. Amazing how quick they come round.	legod (4626)
756532	2009-03-15 03:47:00	IIn the end I got a full refund, left the trolley and walked over the road to New World . Having checked the prices in New World, it appears to me that the Onecard 'discounts' are nothing but discounts off over-inflated prices . Perhaps you are not aware that the New World supermarkets have coupon books which are pretty much the same thing . If you don't have your coupon book "saver card" then you don't get the discounts offered . Personally I find the New World prices way more expensive than Woollies or Countdown . Just shop at Pak n Slave . They don't bother you with coupons or discount cards . :rolleyes:	FoxyMX (5)
756533	2009-03-15 03:54:00	And the same goes for petrol vouchers . It's all factored into the price at the pump . Without the scheme, we should ALL be paying a bit less at the pump . So your saying if the food stores didn't have discount vouchers for petrol then all the prices would be 10 -20 Cents lower all over the country - give me a break . Blame the petrol companies and tax for higher prices . As for fly buys, thats totally different again - you dont get any discounts on items when you buy them, you pay the same as every one else . The only difference is you collect points and when you get enough you can get selected items to the value of those points . if you dont use the points by a certain time you lose them - yeah thats a real good saving . Simple reasoning really - if you dont like the price some place is charging go somewhere that you are happy . Edited: slightly different but still in the same text - We used to have Scan & Go with Pak N Save, Its meant to save you time at the check out, but after several times getting rescans 4-5 weeks in a row, and being accused of not scanning items, then having to prove we did - they had to admit it was their staffs own stuff up . I complained bitterly and basically cut up the card in front of the manager, in the end we got a $250 voucher - an letter apologizing from the manager, and a code put in so we wouldn't have to ever get rescans again - but we chose not to use the scan & go ever again - our choice, but we still shop at the same place . Adding to Foxy's comment - over here at New World if you dont have the coupon book, they simply have one at the checkout, and scan the discounts in anyway without even asking .	wainuitech (129)
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