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| Thread ID: 107067 | 2010-02-03 00:19:00 | Web server suggestions | aidanmaz (7180) | Press F1 |
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| 854822 | 2010-02-03 20:06:00 | I'm not sure how running an OS in a virtual machine helps you with security Besides I'm not aware of any current version IIS vulnerabilities that will give you root access, are you? Not so much secure but seperate and easily fixable. First your machine with grandmas photos isnt running the web server. Two, being a VM you can save state, restore state, and keep it turned off unless required. Also, after youve made your linux machine unbootable or broken, restoring state is a godsend. We are talking about running XP with IIS, most likely not even patched at all, being run by some one new to administration. There are many exploits that the guest XP machine would be vulnerable to. edit : another issue is, does your ISP give you say 15mb of webspace? This may be useful to you aswell. |
pkm (13527) | ||
| 854823 | 2010-02-03 20:15:00 | I'm not sure how running an OS in a virtual machine helps you with security Besides I'm not aware of any current version IIS vulnerabilities that will give you root access, are you? Not with all the relevant updates applied, no - unless someones configured it very badly ;) And therein lies my concern here - will it be the latest version of IIS, with the latest updates? Will it be configured properly? Who knows, I'd like to think so, but I've seen far too many instances where these aren't the case . However, that can be said of any web server solution you go for - using an outdated version, configured poorly, is likely to lead to trouble . It's well worth people taking the time to learn and understand what they're dealing with, and do it properly - or get someone who is already familiar with it to do so - especially if there is any business information going to be potentially at risk . We've actually started hosting more and more sites on IIS in the last year or so, and so far I've found it to be a really good move - mostly I prefer the interface for management & maintenance in IIS than for Apache . I have been impressed with the performance, stability . We're mostly still in a Server 2003 environment (so, IIS6), though I'm trying to get 2008 rolled out mid year - heres hoping . Disturbingly, however, we have a couple of clients still running Windows NT4 machines (somehow some people still don't get the idea that its worth spending money to keep business-critical gear maintained and replaced as necessary), and I have real concerns over the security of IIS3 and 4 on those, heh . |
inphinity (7274) | ||
| 854824 | 2010-02-03 21:27:00 | Not with all the relevant updates applied, no - unless someones configured it very badly ;) And therein lies my concern here - will it be the latest version of IIS, with the latest updates? Will it be configured properly? Who knows, I'd like to think so, but I've seen far too many instances where these aren't the case . However, that can be said of any web server solution you go for - using an outdated version, configured poorly, is likely to lead to trouble . It's well worth people taking the time to learn and understand what they're dealing with, and do it properly - or get someone who is already familiar with it to do so - especially if there is any business information going to be potentially at risk . We've actually started hosting more and more sites on IIS in the last year or so, and so far I've found it to be a really good move - mostly I prefer the interface for management & maintenance in IIS than for Apache . I have been impressed with the performance, stability . We're mostly still in a Server 2003 environment (so, IIS6), though I'm trying to get 2008 rolled out mid year - heres hoping . Disturbingly, however, we have a couple of clients still running Windows NT4 machines (somehow some people still don't get the idea that its worth spending money to keep business-critical gear maintained and replaced as necessary), and I have real concerns over the security of IIS3 and 4 on those, heh . Amen - unfortunately that describes most senior management :thumbs: |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 854825 | 2010-02-03 21:53:00 | IIS server LOL:lol: | Coaster (270) | ||
| 854826 | 2010-02-03 22:33:00 | IIS server LOL:lol: Eh? While there's plenty wrong with IIS, it does (usually) work reasonably well. It just depends what you want to do with it. What I would do is install XAMPP on your current XP, install drupal,wordpress that sort of thing.Agreed - that'll let you learn how to do things without hosing your current system, so you can dip your toes in the river slowly rather than trying to learn swimming while you're drowning. Then consider ubuntu server in a VM to learn how the other 60% of the world do it.Trust me, the other 60% of the world don't use Ubuntu server - that's a recipe for disaster; Canonical don't exactly place a premium on long-term stability. By all means install a Linux distro - that's a great idea - but pick something that won't break. A good choice would be Debian Stable (Lenny, 5.0) or CentOS. |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 854827 | 2010-02-03 23:30:00 | Trust me, the other 60% of the world don't use Ubuntu server - that's a recipe for disaster; Canonical don't exactly place a premium on long-term stability. By all means install a Linux distro - that's a great idea - but pick something that won't break. A good choice would be Debian Stable (Lenny, 5.0) or CentOS. heh sorry I mean linux in general, dont worry Im not a ubuntu fanboy. ;-) Id agree with using debian stable, I use it at home too. Thats a theme I see at ubuntu - things change very quickly,too quickly for some. Infact theres an interesting interview with 'freebsdgirl' on FLOSS weekly. January 14th, 2010 FLOSS Weekly 104: FreeBSDGirl FreeBSD, the OS for server, desktop, and embedded computer platforms. |
pkm (13527) | ||
| 854828 | 2010-02-03 23:55:00 | Ok after a bit of playing, virtual machines are out the door in terms of options..... I allocated 1GB of ram to a 2003 VM, and it runs heinously slow, even without anything on it. I dont mind hosing my system on this particualr machine as i got it free, and not actually gonna use it otherwise. | aidanmaz (7180) | ||
| 854829 | 2010-02-04 00:31:00 | Came across this in a recent Linux Magazine Might have a go with it myself if I ever get a spare moment. slampp.abangadek.com |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 854830 | 2010-02-04 01:08:00 | is there a way to get the server 2003 files onto a usb so i can boot off that? | aidanmaz (7180) | ||
| 854831 | 2010-02-04 01:27:00 | says it does Server 2003 good luck www.downloadsquad.com wintoflash.com |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
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