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Thread ID: 98233	2009-03-16 07:55:00	Crime around community and surveillance system?	CCF (6760)	PC World Chat

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756916	2009-03-16 07:55:00	Hi there all Just like to ask a few questions in regards to crime watch around neighbourhoods and what services are in place to allow a community to reduce the crime around our environment . And also a few questions in settings a home surveillance system . 1) Say I came across some very suspicious 'people' who just left our neighbour house looking very suspiciously (eg holding their arm around their tummy, another person standing out at the drive way watching) . Can I report such activity to the police? Even if I didnt manage to get their car rego number, what can I do, other than telling that neighbour what happened . 2) Are there some guidelines or rules that I should follow if I wish to setup a home surveillance system around my house . Eg must have sign indicating surveillance is in place? And how strict must I follow these rules Or better yet, where can I find these rules? 3) Any one know any good surveillance dealers out there? Online or instore, Im up in auckland . :confused: Been thinking of buying parts from TM . . . is it cheaper on TM or are retail shops cheaper? 4) I already have a home alarm system in place but no insurance, what will be the next best thing to do in regards to home protection? Sadly insurance would be nice, but the cost atm . . . . is really a bit too much with my current income . The reason why im asking this is because just recently my scooter (yes a scooter) and a cheap mountain bike was stolen from my own backyard during some late night . And witnessing these suspicious people around our place today, has really got me thinking that IF they actually broke into my house, the amount of things that I'll lose will be enormous . But then again constantly fearing that my house will be broken into is not an option as well . . . :( Please advise :)	CCF (6760)
756917	2009-03-16 07:59:00	I guess the question you need to ask is whether you can afford to not have insurance - given you've seen suspicious activity around your neighbourhood, if you get burgled, can you afford to replace what is stolen? Regarding your first question, you should still report it, and give the police as accurate descriptions as you can about the people involved. Every little bit of information helps - maybe they get caught burgling another place, and because you witnessed them doing it to your neighbour, it will have an impact on sentencing etc.	somebody (208)
756918	2009-03-16 08:05:00	DSE have surveillance systems, with a monitor and cameras Depends on how much you want to spend I suppose Theres quite a few houses around here (Mt Eden), with signs or something saying there's some kind of security. I wouldnt bother with advertising the fact that I've got something in place. Otherwise, whats the point in setting something up? You probably wont get burgled, and all you've done is waste money getting a security system. And its doing nothing. Its your property, youre protecting. What you do, to protect it is your choice, noone else's Yup as SB said, if you see something suspicious, report it	Speedy Gonzales (78)
756919	2009-03-16 08:14:00	If I do get burgled, then definitely it'll take a while for me to have enough savings to buy what was stolen. The lost will be high, but at the same time, paying for house insurance with my current income will leave me pretty much crippled. Reporting to the police sounds good, can I phone them or would I need to pop into my local station? Also what do I tell them? I saw some suspicious people around my neighbour place and the only thing I know is their car is 'like' a red toyota corolla? Seriously thats the only thing I came remember, other than the obvious gender and possible ethnicity of the suspicious people?	CCF (6760)
756920	2009-03-16 08:39:00	If I do get burgled, then definitely it'll take a while for me to have enough savings to buy what was stolen . The lost will be high, but at the same time, paying for house insurance with my current income will leave me pretty much crippled . Reporting to the police sounds good, can I phone them or would I need to pop into my local station? Also what do I tell them? I saw some suspicious people around my neighbour place and the only thing I know is their car is 'like' a red toyota corolla? Seriously thats the only thing I came remember, other than the obvious gender and possible ethnicity of the suspicious people? Just ring your local police station (not 111!!!), or if you have one in your area, the local crimeline . I know some regions have an 0800 number to anonymously report crimes (or suspected crimes) - i . e . in Hawkes Bay it was 0800 567 789 or something like that . Any information - even as basic as what you've quoted - could be useful . If you can remember approximate heights of people, whether they were wearing anything distinctive, did they have visible tattoos etc .	somebody (208)
756921	2009-03-16 08:58:00	One wonders about these surveillance systems. My boss put one in some time ago to keep an eye on what the workers were up to. Usual signs were in place to avise workers etc which is normal in public places like Malls, Shops and etc also. One night some person came and took away the system. Only thing stolen it was. For home the rules may be different of course, but a surveillance system only sits there and records what is happening and is more or less passive and will not stop events from occurring. I currently pay $28.32 for a fire and general insurance policy per month which is near enough to $7 a week which is about the price of a couple of coffees depending on where you buy the coffee that is. My Fire and general covers all household goods and also has been has only been claimed on once for a lightning strike which wrecked some of my computer and two TVs. You can get fake cameras which do absolutely nothing. They just sit there and look good. They may scare some people off. You could try joining Neighbourhood watch in your local area for example. If you have a digital camera then take pictures of any activity which you think is suspicious. It probably goes without saying that using such a camera to take pics of neighbours while they enjoy various activities on their own place is possibly unadmissable unless of course you film the neighbour coming to your place with a length of iron bar. The final piece of advice is to look after you and yours. Stolen items can be replaced. I don't think your life can be unless you believe in reincarnation.	Sweep (90)
756922	2009-03-16 09:15:00	If I do get burgled, then definitely it'll take a while for me to have enough savings to buy what was stolen. The lost will be high, but at the same time, paying for house insurance with my current income will leave me pretty much crippled. Reporting to the police sounds good, can I phone them or would I need to pop into my local station? Also what do I tell them? I saw some suspicious people around my neighbour place and the only thing I know is their car is 'like' a red toyota corolla? Seriously thats the only thing I came remember, other than the obvious gender and possible ethnicity of the suspicious people? I reported what I saw one morning after a service station robbery. I took notes. Took the Police 7 weeks to get back to me to give a statement. This in spite of the fact that I phoned the Police a few times. And I would still recognise the person I saw on the day of the robbery. This does not mean the person I saw was guilty. A police officer eventually asked me to give a statement and this happend only last week.	Sweep (90)
756923	2009-03-16 10:27:00	Move out of south or west Auckland to a nicer neighbourhood...	johcar (6283)
756924	2009-03-16 20:07:00	Ok, so suppose you have footage of someone burgerlerising your neighbour's house . Now what? The police won't act on it . If you know the person on the camera and you have some authority over them they're very usful . Hence CCTVs are great for catching employees stealing .	shermo (12739)
756925	2009-03-16 20:09:00	some very suspicious 'people' who just left our neighbour house looking very suspiciously (eg holding their arm around their tummy, 4) I have no insurance, Why is someone with an arm across their tummy suspicious? Maybe they had a pain...... You're crazy. What if there's a fire? Contents insurance is NOT expensive. Get some quotes.	pctek (84)
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