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856052 2010-02-10 08:31:00 Don't expect to be able to upgrade a MAC easily you can't just add stuff in like new hardware

Valid point, but 99% of people don't need to upgrade anything other than RAM (which is user replaceable on an iMac).


MACS do get viruses as well despite all the hype saying they don't.

Could you name one that actually does something I should be concerned about? The reality is that Mac OS X is a much more secure system. That isn't to say it is perfect, because nothing is ever completely secure, but Mac OS X is much more secure that Windows. btw. Mac is short for Macintosh, it doesn't stand for anything - therefore MAC should be Mac. ;)

Just some things to think about:

Would the 27-inch model be better for design work?
Remember to factor in the cost of Windows and Parallels/VMWare if you want to run both systems simultaneously. If the reseller can do an OEM version, then that will be cheaper.

Other than that, go for it Davemas. You can't really go wrong with the current iMac lineup. :)
maccrazy (6741)
856053 2010-02-10 08:38:00 Other than that, go for it Davemas. You can't really go wrong with the current iMac lineup. :)
Do you recall he said that his wife did not like to fiddle with computers and that he needs windows?:eek:
notechyet (4479)
856054 2010-02-10 09:59:00 Do you recall he said that his wife did not like to fiddle with computers and that he needs windows?:eek:
well if his wife doesn't want to fiddle with computers(anti spyware, AV and the likes) then I would say the mac is definitely the right choice
plod (107)
856055 2010-02-10 11:00:00 If you need to run Windows anyway, getting a Mac is spending a lot of money you don't need to.

Buy a good quality PC with Windows, get a decent Antivirus, you'll be fine and save a lot of money. Not to mention performance will be better than any virtual environment.

Besides, even if Windows was running in Parallels, it would still need Antivirus. Running on a Mac doesn't make it immune.



Could you name one that actually does something I should be concerned about? The reality is that Mac OS X is a much more secure system. That isn't to say it is perfect, because nothing is ever completely secure, but Mac OS X is much more secure that Windows

www.sophos.com

I know I would be worried about that one. Could potentially be used to perform a man-in-the-middle attack, and someone ends up stealing your identity\money\passwords etc.

Probably one of the worst things that could happen as result of a virus, in my opinion.

So yes, that is a virus I would be concerned about.

Windows might be infectable by several million or so viruses, but all you need is one to steal highly confidential information, and it doesn't matter which brand of computer you think is better, you're still screwed.

A potentially lower chance of it happening doesn't make it any less of a threat when you consider the consquences.
Agent_24 (57)
856056 2010-02-10 11:16:00 And as the app software is not designed to run on a Mac it may be better to run it on a PC. There is no Mac version available. Sweep (90)
856057 2010-02-10 13:25:00 That's not to say of course that you shouldn't use a Mac because they can get viruses too, I'm just saying that the line "Macs don't get viruses" is untrue and if I had one I'd have Antivirus software on it anyway.

Plus, it doesn't just help you, it helps everyone. Your Mac may not get infected with Conficker etc but if you have an Antivirus which detected it on a USB drive and prevented it from spreading to a friend with Windows for example, that is a good thing.

Personally I like OSX. I just don't like the overpriced hardware that Apple expects you to run it on.

It was shown on the Hackintosh forums that building a machine with the same specifications as a Mac resulted in a computer which was much cheaper, and yet outperformed the real Mac in benchmarking.

A hacked OSX and a custom hardware setup is what I'd use is all I'm saying.
Agent_24 (57)
856058 2010-02-10 17:21:00 .......The design software we use is not resource hungry and is designed for pc with no mac version available. We dont want to learn a new system so intend having xp insatalled also.
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I can buy an equivalent pc for quite a bit less, what is the benefit of the mac (aside from just being heaps cooler)
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My wife will be the predominant user, and HATES computers, so I am looking for something that really is easy and intuitive!
Dave
If I look at the above requirements, I'm not sure if it is wise to go the OS X and VM way. The setup with VM's does require more attention. If you like to see more discussion re the Mac Vm options look at the Parallels (forum.parallels.com/) or VMWare Fusion (http:) forums.
Being heaps cooler may not help your wife much.:2cents:
notechyet (4479)
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