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| Thread ID: 98594 | 2009-03-30 19:34:00 | Another Corrections Cockup. | Trev (427) | PC World Chat |
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| 760790 | 2009-03-30 19:34:00 | www.nzherald.co.nz :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 760791 | 2009-03-30 19:39:00 | "But what the jury did not know - and could not be told - was that the night he murdered Augustine, Davis was on bail over the aggravated assault, and had already breached his conditions twice." And that's why that poor bastard's dead. Juries should be told about an accused's background. We need it to form a clear picture of that person's state of mind and personality. Juries are told all about a rapist's tough childhood and how his mother never loved him and how he was bullied at school and boo hoo hoo. Why aren't juries also told what that person's behaviour is like now? |
Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 760792 | 2009-03-30 19:48:00 | Hardly a Corrections cock-up when bail is granted by a Judge in Court. The Judge would have been given all relevant information. Supervision of people on bail is by the Police, not the Corrections Department, whose respnsibilities are for people on parole or probation. The fact remains however that the community was failed by the Judge who allowed bail to this animal, who was up on several other charges. |
Richard (739) | ||
| 760793 | 2009-03-30 19:50:00 | "But what the jury did not know - and could not be told - was that the night he murdered Augustine, Davis was on bail over the aggravated assault, and had already breached his conditions twice." And that's why that poor bastard's dead. Juries should be told about an accused's background. We need it to form a clear picture of that person's state of mind and personality. Juries are told all about a rapist's tough childhood and how his mother never loved him and how he was bullied at school and boo hoo hoo. Why aren't juries also told what that person's behaviour is like now? The do- gooders will let you know in due course. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 760794 | 2009-03-30 19:51:00 | Then the do-gooders can pay for the funeral. | Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 760795 | 2009-03-30 23:00:00 | Juries are told all about a rapist's tough childhood and how his mother never loved him and how he was bullied at school and boo hoo hoo. What makes you think juries are told this sort of thing? Maybe it's a matter for sentencing - but at that stage the jury is not involved. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 760796 | 2009-03-30 23:03:00 | Their lawyer tells us (well, did in the one I was a jury member in, anyway) Big sob story about what a tough life they've had, but we're not told about the hardship they've caused others. |
Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 760797 | 2009-03-30 23:06:00 | Their lawyer tells us (well, did in the one I was a jury member in, anyway) Big sob story about what a tough life they've had, but we're not told about the hardship they've caused others. So in what way was the information evidential? I cannot see how it would have been admissible otherwise. Perhaps it might be presented as a mitigating factor - but mitigation is not evidence - it's a matter for sentencing. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 760798 | 2009-03-30 23:10:00 | Can't remember much of it. It was years ago. Haven't been called up for ages. | Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 760799 | 2009-03-30 23:12:00 | How about the 10 year sentence...***, 10 years!, the murderer will be 28 when he gets out. If he turns his life around (likely?...not), he will have a chance to have a life, his victim will not....someone tell me how this is deemed justice? | SolMiester (139) | ||
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