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859781	2010-03-11 08:54:00	I know how them Green faces got in the text, ha ha....don't use ' colon D ' !! Well all seems to be ok with the setup I have (AMD AThlon II X4 630 CPU on an AM2 motherboard) with the use of the Award F9e (beta) BIOS, apart from the following. When I first installed the F9e Bios using Q-Flash and loaded it from a USB Flash drive it went in no problem. After I did the " Load optimal Defaults" and got the "Unganged " RAM message in POST I tried to get my precious RAM back to being either 'Dual channel' or 'Ganged' by redoing the BIOS update from USB flash drive and the USB drive wasn't recognised, the bios instal wouldn't go. Left it as it was. After a while I noticed that the USB keyboard I use in USB2 input wouldn't work in POST stage but more so when I tried to instal W7 X64 and had problems getting the KBrd to work if I pushed any key to "Boot from CD" or to choose an option to open Windows in Normal or Safe mode. I had to wait out the 30seconds for it to open in Normal Mode. This was a PITA especially when I tried to instal W7 X64 from an open W7 X86 running. When instal got past the Loading setup files and rebooted, the Kbrd wouldn't respond to an u/down arrow key to choose W7 or W7 Setup. System jammed and I'd have to cold kill com and remove instal DVD and after much messing about, get W7 X86 open and get into msconfig and delete the "w7 X64 Setup " entry in the Boot section. PITA!! Eventually, I had a brainwave and plugged in a PS/2 Kbrd. Action now....but still can't get W7X64 to instal..........probably because I'm loathe to instal it over the X86 I have on C drive and am attempting to instal X64 on the only partition I have on C drive ( apart from C drive System) and run both OS's in Dual Boot mode. There's more but thats about it really. As Speedy said, Beta BIOS can be buggy. Perhaps this is a bug, but despite that, eveything else is hunky dory..........except for the fact that none of the USB drives I have could be setup in BIOS to be used to load an OS too. Looks like I'm stuck with the X86 until I do something.....like maybe use the 1TB HDD as Master System drive, load the X64 to that and then set the X86 to be slave drive........hmmmm....might give it a shot this weekend.	gza (13233)
859782	2010-03-11 09:00:00	I take it you have more than partition tho, since youre trying to do a dual boot? Otherwise you're not going to get both on the hdd, if you've only got C and you want to keep x86	Speedy Gonzales (78)
859783	2010-03-11 09:36:00	Hi Speedy. All that I have on the Primary HDD are two partitions. The 70 GB System/ Boot partition with X86 on it ( 'C' Drive) and the 78GB partition ('E' drive) on which I am trying to install the X64 W7 OS. It doesn't seem like it wants to go anywhere else but the 'C' drive. I have been trying for 2 weeks and am about to make the 1TB Seagate I have as a second drive, the Primary drive and try to load the X64 to it. The drive will be bare of anything apart from the X64. I have been reading up that it is best to Dual boot OS's having the Older of the two OS's installed first and then the newer OS. I've also read that its not to wise to instal two OS's of the same type/manufacture on one HDD. I really don't want to overwrite ( Old Windows/New Windows)the X86 I have up and running at the mo. I tried it couple weeks ago, but it was a faulty instal. Nothing would open. What had happened was the instal didn't complete properly and I had to get into msconfig and delete the entry for W7 X64 Setup. Oh, I've said that before. Sorry. Perhaps I have no choice but to format the complete 160GB Primary drive and instal the X64 to it. After having backed up the X86 in case I need to reinstal X86 should the instal X64 goes pear shaped.	gza (13233)
859784	2010-03-11 09:40:00	Did E appear in the Windows 7 setup screen?	Speedy Gonzales (78)
859785	2010-03-11 09:40:00	You seem to have an extended partition going by the drive letters.	Sweep (90)
859786	2010-03-11 11:09:00	Another thing is that when I try to instal X64 to the 'E' drive or 'F' drive from the open W7 X86 I'm getting an onscreen message window that says "Windows cannot upgrade this system" or something similar to that. I'm not trying to upgrade the X86 OS, I'm trying to instal the X64 to the 'E' drive as a dual boot setup. Also, when I try to instal from the ' Boot from DVD' option, sometimes when it gets to the optin to 'Choose Language' etc when I click next I get a message that a ' Device driver is missing. Instal the driver for the CD/DVD drive.....Sesrch for driver?' click OK and off it goes in search and fimds nothing. Now this is a real strange one to me. Last night I searched/googled for drivers/firmware for the Pioneer DVD drive installed in computer and found the latest one/s available and installed it....FW 1.28, its about 6months old. Still that made no difference. I think the OS DVD may be faulty or perhaps damaged because on two occasions that I have managed to get the X64 to instal the full 16.3GB of itself onto the 'E' drive, It just plain won't open....gets to the Windows is starting and the W7 logo is there but it justs won't open for me to put in password or whatever. I think I've figured out why and what is wrong. The instal which is slow (mentioned in new thread I have about Transfer Rate of DVD drive shows as -1.00) goes through all the motions of Installing Files/Expanding Files/Installing Features/Installing Updates/.....................it is when it gets to the " Completing installation " I have noticed that the Staus Indicator bar is not fully green, its about 20% short of the end and the computer reboots, I choose the top of the two W7 options and it opens up to " Starting Windows" and just stays there. I believe that the instal is incomplete because I have not entered a user name, password or license key in the setup process. I believe that these steps would have to be the final ones of the installing of the OS. I'm not sure, but I will try the last resorts of instal as I mentioned earlier and if that fails, I will take the OS DVD to a mates place and an unallocated space 80GB IDE ATA HDD to a mates place and see if it loads in his computer ( I'll do it ofline without updates so as not to stuff up the One computer use of the OS/VLK). Just to see if it instals and opens fully. After that, It'll be happy with the X86 and maybe get a W7 Pro X64 (student rates....who needs the 32 languages that cost a $100 more as a salesman @ DSE told me, the Pro and Ultimate are the same bar the languages choice, he said)......dunno yet. See how it goes over the weekend before I make any decisions. I'll post outcomes here saturday or sunday.	gza (13233)
859787	2010-03-11 11:35:00	Speedy, Yes 'E' appeared in the setup screen. I had about 7 options to choose from and chose 'E' as the drive/partition to instal to. I also removed all other internal and USB drives HDD drives at one time, leaving only the 160GB Primary drive. Sweep, the 78GB 'F' drive I had created using GParted 0.4.1.6 and it is/was a Primary drive, and I set it to be the 'Boot' active drive using the 'Flags' facility. When it installed and I try to open the 'F'drive from the POST I get message " BOOTMGR is missing or corrupt" Being adventurous and foolhardy I go back into the whole thing and use GParted to " Rewrite MBR"...........didn't work Sometimesw I think the MBR is being sent to 'C' drive because one time a week or so back, my C drive containing W7 X86 wouldn't open after installing X64 to 'F'drive. Booted into GParted again and the C drive was shown to have an Exclamation mark in a orange triangle......suggestion was to run CHKDSK C:/f I did that but had to instal WXP to a small IDE HDD in order for me to get a working desktop to set the CHKDSK C:/f task in action after a reboot. Fixed it, but before that I was pretty much without a working computer. Took a bit of figuring out, and at moment its running well enough. Hell, I could just stay 32 Bit and only get the use of 3/4 of the RAM i have. Until I get X64 sorted out. Maybe I not meant to have two 'Primary' drives on the one HDD? The X86 is marked "System, Boot,Pagefile, Crashdump....whatever" and the 'F' is Labelled "W7X64" and I flagged it to be the Boot partition and active. This left the 'C' System partition as non-boot.................................or so I believe. Anyway.......................................I can't get the X64 working and its not really a PITA, its just annoying that it won't instal and run.........yet Thanks for your input, guys gza	gza (13233)
859788	2010-03-24 02:27:00	This was easily fixed by screwing up a bios upgrade and having to buy a new mobo. Gigabyte MA74GM-S2 rev.4. Mind you that new mobo ain't got W7 X64 up and running yet, I haven't done the mobo swap....yet I just wondering if this would be correct....your replies please and I don't mind if ya ROFL.... Peeed off to the max I couldn't W7 X64 to instal/open into Windows, I thought I'd roll back to the F3 BIOS I had ages ago and as the AMD AThlon II X4 630 was running and because I'd see if the F9e beta was not a beta anymore (ha ha) I used the Gigabyte '@BIOS' tool to look for an update. What it found was this...'Nividia 7025/Nividia nForce 630 GPU'............scratched the earhole and thought "well, that ain't a BIOS update coz I can get that update direct from Nividia'. I clicked OK update, the update was downloaded and the computer rebooted. Nice black screen while the update was loading....I guess. Along comes a spider................fella dropped in, he's a 9 bob note, and I'm waiting for the com to finish its update. 5 minutes on I went to make a cuppa tea. On my return, he was at the computer and had tried to start the computer from the power button. In effect turning the computer off. I've been looking at a black screen since then. Other signs point to a dead CPU as I know it...ie: monitor led stays orange, no green led lights on keyboard and no red light ta base of optical mouse...........hmmmm Has the BIOS of my mobo (Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2l) been screwed? Can it be fixed? Or should I just bin the mobo and move on to the new mobo ( I'd have preferred a 785GT.but there wasn't one available locally and I needed a functioning computer asap like NOW. I thought that the Nividia 7025/Nividia nForce630a GPU was to do with the Graphics card. I also think that the Nividia 7025/Nividia nForce630a GPU is an integral part of the mobo's Chipset. Not too sure but I think it is. Anyway, have I now got one totally useless Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2L motherboard? If the answer is yes don't reply. Ta gza	gza (13233)
859789	2010-03-24 03:15:00	I'm soing home to get the new motherboard installed. Any chance I can get the old one up and running good as newish so it can be sold and not cause the buyer any grief? cheers All replies welcomed. gza	gza (13233)
859790	2010-03-24 11:33:00	This is the last post that I put into the thread I had at Windows 7 Forum, the full thread is here www.w7forums.com Nibiru2012. Thank you. I have had success and it didn't come cheap. I managed to screw the BIOS by using @BIOS to look for a update to the F9e. Well it found this " Nividia 2075/nForce 630a" and I ok'd the update and instal of it. Don't know why I did, because it isn't a BIOS as such like Z-Cars 64 or whayever: its the chipset drivers. HAd to reboot computer and on restart there's a black screen..I think the computer is sorting out the data change.Went made a cuppa tea, and a person here went in to use the computer and hit the POWER button to turn it on. ...turned it blimmin off..........then on again..............................seen nothing but a black screen for two days. Went a bought a new Gigabyte MA-GA74GM-S2 rev 4.0, not exactly the model I wanted but it was all that was available immediately.....NZ$140.0 Set it up in tower and all the other bits to get it running, Thought I'd try to do the instal of X64 again seeing as I had an AM3 Mobo and a new BIOS, it is BIOS FA. Same slow boat to china with the optical drive but it had a new connecter cable/ribbon and also the SATA HDD I attached the new sata connecter cable, so that was that. I decided to try the Dual boot again as it was what was bugging me most, and my heart missed a beat when it didn't restart when reaching the 'Completing Installation' part, and I watched and waited for it to restart but I could see the green staus bar moving slowly as I had put the mouse pointer on its position. Eventally it did restart, and my heart missed another beat but when it came on screen it was finishing up and testing Video and a couple other things and then it was all go. I rebooted and have two W7 options to choose from, shame one doesn't say X86 and the other X64..................but I know which is which. I haven't installed to the 1TB SATA HDD, I installed to the 160GB (149GB) SATA HDD and depending on which version I want to run it seems to make that the Active Boot Dive. I wanted both systems because I wanted to see what programs I have on X86 are not comptible with X64. There eems to be two camps on that subject, some say that most if not 99% all 32 bit are compatible with 64 Bit. Others say the opposite. I'll find out, hopefully not the hard way. Here is a PNG of my system, if it goes to post here, I don't know how to shrink the image as you had done but I'll try to attach it here. I only had the 1 HDD but I also just connected the 1TB External HDD as it has AV and Firewall programs etc on it that I use. This endevour of getting 64 Bit on my computer has been a learning epic!!! much thanks gazza Damn, I don't seem to be able to attach a PNG of Disk Management of my computer. I'll work on it and figure it out and post one. edit 1: Nibiru 2012, I like your seperate Page File Partition. I had read about making it separarte and that best place for it was at the very beginning of the System disk where Data tranfer is at its fastest. Haven't tried it yet. I did have a 'Page File Defrag' program when I was running XP Pro SP3. It defragged the PF at the very beginning just after the boot / opening screen.Normally Defrag apps don't/can't/won't defrag a PF or a Hiber file...or Sys Restore. But anyway, Its all good. :banana edit 2: I'm still at a loss to actually pinpoint why X64 wouldn't instal properly before. At the end of the day, it could have been the the GA-M68SM-S2L mobo, the F9e BIOS, an AM3 CPU in an AM2 Mobo, a faulty IDE or SATA connector ribbon/cable, a mixture of more than one of these things or just plain Murphy's Law. Perhaps it was a bonus that I had the new Mobos' Drivers CD (?).........though I didn't use it until X64 was installed. I looked into the BIOS of the new mobo to check HPET and it was set to Enable and I couldn't see any alteration places to set either 32 or 64 Bit so I just left it all as it was. That was before I installed X64. I didn't attempt to set the mode to AHCI, I didn't even look into it. I know when I tried to set it to AHCI from IDE Mode W7 X86 wouldn't open and AHCI wouldn't get X64 working either. So I simply left everything as it was. Thats it. I hope what I have been through will help someone else with a similar problem as I had. Thanks to all contributors. gazz	gza (13233)
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