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Thread ID: 99027	2009-04-17 00:31:00	Plastic Shopping Bags - I use them	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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765905	2009-04-20 00:26:00	Well, in the same way that holding a cell phone and a drink bottle have become fashion statements, it's becoming the fashion to be seen carrying shopping bags, (like we always used to do before the age of plastic........):p	Terry Porritt (14)
765906	2009-04-20 02:52:00	So, I go into the supermarket, buy what I want and (reluctantly) pay for the plastic bags. Some of them have got a nick or a hole in and later one splits because the checkout operator put the bottle of wine in horizontally and the neck has gone thru' the side. Do I get a full refund under the Sale of Goods Act (not fit for the purpose)?! Imagine how that would hold the Small Claims Court up!	tuiruru (12277)
765907	2009-04-20 07:30:00	Well.... just bought a plastic bag for the first time - Warehouse in Motueka. Tossed up whether to buy or balance the half a dozen small items for a couple of km walk... the bag won. Surely this is going to lead to more shoplifting, and more people accused of shop lifting. eg. You go into a store to buy a couple of books and a CD. You don't buy a bag, and after paying for the goods, you go back into the store to browse other things, and you then walk out of the shop with the goods that you have paid for, but haven't gone through the checkout for the second time. You then may go into bookstore. Whats to stop these shops not thinking you have not paid for the goods that you purchased from another shop. They could put a 'sold' sticker on it, but with a book that would damage the cover on book. I can see lot of potential problems. They also may get returned products that have been weather damaged.	robbyp (2751)
765908	2009-04-20 07:45:00	Surely this is going to lead to more shoplifting, and more people accused of shop lifting. eg. You go into a store to buy a couple of books and a CD. You don't buy a bag, and after paying for the goods, you go back into the store to browse other things, and you then walk out of the shop with the goods that you have paid for, but haven't gone through the checkout for the second time. You then may go into bookstore. Whats to stop these shops not thinking you have not paid for the goods that you purchased from another shop. They could put a 'sold' sticker on it, but with a book that would damage the cover on book. I can see lot of potential problems. They also may get returned products that have been weather damaged. But.. we never used to have things put in plastic bags...shop counter people used to either put things in brown paper bags, or wrap items up in a brown paper parcel tied with white 'sugar' string... as has already been said in this thread.........So why should it make any difference now? People will adjust. Incidently those shopkeepers had the knack of tieing a parcel knot with a loop, and then with a quick movement break the string with their fingers. When I worked partime in a radio shop and tried that, all that happened was I cut my finger badly :clap Edit: and if you bought spuds from the greengrocers, they were weighed in a scoop , and tipped straight into your shopping bag, the one you kept for veges............no spuds prepacked in plastic. I bought a couple of telegraph cucumbers on Saturday, they were encased in plastic tubes, bloody nonsense, they dont even keep as well in plastic.	Terry Porritt (14)
765909	2009-04-20 07:50:00	Surely this is going to lead to more shoplifting, and more people accused of shop lifting. eg. You go into a store to buy a couple of books and a CD. You don't buy a bag, and after paying for the goods, you go back into the store to browse other things, and you then walk out of the shop with the goods that you have paid for, but haven't gone through the checkout for the second time. You then may go into bookstore. Whats to stop these shops not thinking you have not paid for the goods that you purchased from another shop. They could put a 'sold' sticker on it, but with a book that would damage the cover on book. I can see lot of potential problems. They also may get returned products that have been weather damaged. Keep your receipts and you'll be fine :thumbs:	davidmmac (4619)
765910	2009-04-20 07:55:00	Keep your receipts and you'll be fine :thumbs: I intend to, And I'll re-enter that same store with my receipt, find the exact same item, and walk out with it, I could spend hours doing it. Anyone want a cheap plasma?	Metla (12)
765911	2009-04-20 08:01:00	The Warehouse and Mitre 10 use stickies for items you have purchased but declined a bag for.	gary67 (56)
765912	2009-04-20 08:17:00	The Warehouse and Mitre 10 use stickies for items you have purchased but declined a bag for. And on that note, does anyone want to buy half a roll of "sold" sticky tape as used at the warehouse? Going cheap. $500. I see they protect that crap like its gold.....	Metla (12)
765913	2009-04-20 09:56:00	The Warehouse and Mitre 10 use stickies for items you have purchased but declined a bag for. Some products, such as a book could have the surface damaged by stickers, so I wouldn't want them sticking a piece of sold tape on any book I purchased. I have returned numerous books to stores for a replacements, after the sticky price label was unable to be removed without damaging the cover. You could also save those sticky labels, and take them back into the store to put onto stuff you hadn't yet purchased. Plastic bags have the advantage, that they can be sealed to stop people putting more stuff into the bag, which is what I used to do when I worked in retail on a holiday job. Anyway it isn't plastic bags that are the problem, as they are a minor cause of pollution, and many people reuse them. It is all the other packaging that encloses the products that is worse, and otfen can't be recycled. PLastic bags can be recycled and or reused. Not to mention all the cheap chinese rubbish that people buy that after a year or two, ends up in NZs landfills. If these retailers really did care, they would be using corn starch bags, which bio degrade. Farmers provide a plastic bag that breaks down after a year or two. Really it comes down to their bottom line, and they can save a lot of money by not providing free plastic bags, while making them look like the good guys. They are trying to give the impression that they are being environmently responsible, and doing good for the commuunity by giving any money that they make form selling bags, to charity. It is however all just marketing spin.	robbyp (2751)
765914	2009-04-20 09:59:00	But.. we never used to have things put in plastic bags...shop counter people used to either put things in brown paper bags, or wrap items up in a brown paper parcel tied with white 'sugar' string... as has already been said in this thread.........So why should it make any difference now? People will adjust. Incidently those shopkeepers had the knack of tieing a parcel knot with a loop, and then with a quick movement break the string with their fingers. When I worked partime in a radio shop and tried that, all that happened was I cut my finger badly :clap Edit: and if you bought spuds from the greengrocers, they were weighed in a scoop , and tipped straight into your shopping bag, the one you kept for veges............no spuds prepacked in plastic. I bought a couple of telegraph cucumbers on Saturday, they were encased in plastic tubes, bloody nonsense, they dont even keep as well in plastic. Well if they were putting our stuff into paper bags, or the 21st equivalent would be corn starch bags, I wouldn't have a problem. Maybe they would prefer us to take our business elsewhere. I tend to buy most of my stuff online these days, including groceries from woolworths, and they all come packaged.	robbyp (2751)
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