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| Thread ID: 99043 | 2009-04-17 13:43:00 | TPB - Today's court verdict - Imprisonment ! | blanco (11336) | PC World Chat |
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| 765999 | 2009-04-18 00:30:00 | unlike Napster used to - TPB doesn't actually host the files that people are getting. Ah, but, think about this: Napster didnt either, it was simply a channel for connecting users in a "Peer to Peer" fashion, same as TPB! The whole point is as per that article So what the music /movies companies are saying is TPB are providing a means to get pirated material, and thats where the "confusion" is. Bit like saying if you go and buy a car, then go nuts running people over - hardly the Car Dealers fault. Yeah its a gray area for sure, the technology is great, but we all *know* that people go to TPB to get pirated stuff :p I dunno, I think the likes of btjunkie stands even *more* of a chance because it simply indexes other hosts. TPB not only hosted the .torrent files but had a tracker that people could use. The whole technology itself is "insecure" from the perspective of others being able to see what you're doing, but "secure" in the way that it handles all the files and prevents the "poisoning" of files :) I get the feeling this is both going to shake up the consumers and the artists into finding a new way for consumers to attain music, both legally and illegally ... |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 766000 | 2009-04-18 01:39:00 | People have been copying things for years I even had a Sony twin tape deck back in the '60's It's not the copying they are getting upset about its the fact you can do it without using their gear so no cash for them.No court case for people making dvd recorders yet because they make money. | Roger Hunt (13648) | ||
| 766001 | 2009-04-18 02:00:00 | If I buy something its mine.If I want to share it I should be able to.Anything else I own I am able to share without some dick from some greedy company butting in.They have been payed for it once how many times do they expect to be payed.Are they Apple or something?Mum would be proud of me she told me to always share. | Roger Hunt (13648) | ||
| 766002 | 2009-04-18 03:57:00 | If I buy something its mine.If I want to share it I should be able to.Anything else I own I am able to share without some dick from some greedy company butting in.They have been payed for it once how many times do they expect to be payed.Are they Apple or something?Mum would be proud of me she told me to always share. Common Sense Isn't Common Too true. |
roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 766003 | 2009-04-18 03:58:00 | If I buy something its mine . That actually depends on what it is a person has purchased . A classic example: if you purchase a copy of MS software, could be an OS, or office - the person doesn't actually own it - Microsoft still own the Software, what a person has purchased is the License to use the software within the licensing agreement - meaning you agree to only use it on One PC (if its single user) . If someone ever reads the terms and conditions, when you click " I accept" it actually says this - legally you are not allowed to backwards engineer it, or alter the program unless this is a function of the program . |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 766004 | 2009-04-18 04:03:00 | I've been pondering the legality of sites like TPB myself, and sort of figure the closest analogy in a non-technical sense was if there was a publication (like the Thursday Trader, Trade & Exchange, classified ads) in which the publisher knowingly allowed 90%+ of the sales listings to be for stolen goods . Technically the publisher isn't selling stolen goods - they are merely pointing you to places where you can buy them - much like torrent trackers pointing you at IP addresses which have a particular file (or piece of file) . |
somebody (208) | ||
| 766005 | 2009-04-18 06:17:00 | Now thats an interesting analogy there somebody! | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 766006 | 2009-04-18 06:51:00 | What's the bet that if the site was called anything other than "The Pirate Bay" it wouldn't have gotten the attention. There's heaps of other torrent hosts that don't use such blatant terminology. :) | Andy1 (8755) | ||
| 766007 | 2009-04-18 07:02:00 | TPB is the biggest of them all. Theres a few others, but their size pales in comparison, not to mention a lot of Sweden apparently is quite patriotic about TPB :) | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 766008 | 2009-04-18 07:53:00 | We need to apply caution NOT to use words like Piracy, Take, and Theft, as in their usual sense they have quite a different meaning than what is happening with digital media. If I take your car, you no longer have that car. I have it. However, if I take a copy of your digital media you still have your digital media. You can still use it, sell it or modify it. So your loss is far less that the loss if I had taken the one and only copy that existed, and you didn't have any source material with which to replace it. This is never, ever the case with the record and movie companies. There's no shortage of duplicate copies for them to hawk. In fact, your loss is tiny, particularly if those who are gaining copies would never have paid your price to gain it legitimately - in which case you have lost nothing. It is in fact a form of market forces at work. The usual response to gain these customers is to make your price more attractive. Calling such activities Theft or Piracy is really overkill when put into this perspective. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
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