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| Thread ID: 99166 | 2009-04-22 11:03:00 | The great Dell debate | jwil1 (65) | PC World Chat |
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| 767536 | 2009-04-24 21:44:00 | As you onsell of course you stick up for them. But you can't say Dells are great, HPs are not. It all comes down to what is inside them. And it varies. So some Dells may be great. etc. Usually though even those ones let themselves down with crap PSUs, no upgrade ability and a lack of service. You sound like a broken record or should that be a broken optical drive. Of course every dell that you have come across has needed fixing, thats what you do. I have had three toaster shop computers in the last 10 years and all are still going. No faults what so ever. or just maybe I go to the right toaster shop:eek: |
plod (107) | ||
| 767537 | 2009-04-25 00:17:00 | As you onsell of course you stick up for them. But you can't say Dells are great, HPs are not. It all comes down to what is inside them. And it varies. So some Dells may be great. etc. Usually though even those ones let themselves down with crap PSUs, no upgrade ability and a lack of service. I am not a Dell reseller. I don't sell new brand-name PCs. For ex-leases, I sell more HPs than Dells in fact, and I do less well-known brands with good components as well. I was just offering my opinion on the reliability after selling hundreds of each. It seems to agree with what Erayd said earlier, too, though ironically the ones he deals with probably wind up being the ones I buy. Of course the parts vary, some HPs have Seagates and some have Maxtors in the exact same model. My comments took into account crap PSUs. I have had over 30 D530U PSU failures (out of about 60 of that model) and never a Dell one go despite having bought 100 or so Dells in the past. As for service and upgradeability, remember that these are corporate PCs designed to be leased to a company and never upgraded. Though I would have to disagree on the upgrade issue too. I have never seen a corporate PC model (apart from extra-compact ones which are not common) where you can't upgrade the RAM, CPU, HDD and optical drive. Most have SATA ports even when supplied with an IDE hard drive. Service is usually done by an inhouse tech in schools and big companies so there's not too much issue there. Remember I am not offering an opinion on Dells for consumers as I don't deal with them often, and just like you, it's usually only when they're broken! |
george12 (7) | ||
| 767538 | 2009-04-25 00:20:00 | Pricing is the lowest you will find. Same goes for quality The Compaq D5* range all had horrible power supplies. Their more recent computers are a bit better quality |
Greven (91) | ||
| 767539 | 2009-04-25 00:42:00 | Pricing is the lowest you will find. Same goes for quality The Compaq D5* range all had horrible power supplies. Their more recent computers are a bit better quality To be fair, the D51*s were good though. Never saw a dead PSU on those, and they're happy to take 1GB of RAM and a P4 2.66 despite usually being shipped with a Celeron 1.7..... And the D53* all suffered (depending on the revision) bad caps on the motherboard. Some companies had nearly every motherboard fail before 3 years. Need I get into nc/nx6120s ..... Note that I would never argue Dells are good quality, it just seems that they make more reliable corporate computers than HP, which is pretty much the only major competition for corporate desktops these days. |
george12 (7) | ||
| 767540 | 2009-04-25 03:15:00 | Dell, HP, Apple, or whoever simply sets out the specifications for the monitors they want, and outsource the actual manufacturing out to OEMs. For example, the majority of laptops are manufactured by either Compal or Quanta, on contract from brands like Dell, HP, Apple, Acer etc. Who manufactures Asus, out of curiosity? The wikipedia pages for both Compal or Quanta did not mention Asus |
Renmoo (66) | ||
| 767541 | 2009-04-25 03:19:00 | Who manufactures Asus, out of curiosity? The wikipedia pages for both Compal or Quanta did not mention Asus Asus used to be an OEM/ODM company, but they've now spun off that part of the business - under the Pegatron and Unihan names. They used to (and probably still do) do contract manufacturing for companies like Sony, Apple etc. I suspect because of that, they will have their OEM/ODM divisions do their manufacturing. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 767542 | 2009-04-25 03:24:00 | Dell = cheaper components. meaning a cheaper price. You get what you pay for, end of story. They are ideal for people that just want a computer and are not fussy. Me personally I would not touch one even if someone else paid for it. |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 767543 | 2009-04-25 06:30:00 | Seven of them over 10 years all still going strong, no problems upgrading and I can even play MS Flight Sim X with fairly high settings on my home pc which is about 4 years old. But maybe its just because I have actually used them that my experiences seem unique. |
Steven (7085) | ||
| 767544 | 2009-04-26 22:50:00 | Interesting, especially as neither Dell, HP nor Apple manufacture monitors. The best screens are made by LG (as far as I am aware, they are the only IPS monitor lcd panel manufacturer), second is Samsung (PVA screens). High end Apple and HP screens use LG panels. The 30" Dell also uses LG, but the 24" and 22" ultrasharp models use Samsung PVA screens. Most other manufacturers of monitors use cheaper TN panels with poor viewing angles, colour reproduction and inverse ghosting. |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 767545 | 2009-04-26 23:23:00 | People can bad mouth Dells all they want, I have one at home it runs sweet. Have Compaqs at work because I bought them in bulk from Trademe cheap as but they keep a local computer tech in lifestyle she is accustomed to with all the breakdowns. |
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