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| Thread ID: 99136 | 2009-04-21 11:38:00 | Maori Politics | hueybot3000 (3646) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 766999 | 2009-04-24 02:53:00 | Oh you will have to pay the ''local Iwi" off or they will do a protest.:lol: By 'iwi' do you mean: A) Black power/Mongrel mob B) Rent-a-crowd C) The thing that less than 30% of New Zealanders care about? (I think it's less but I don't want to start a flamewar) As far as I care, 'Maori culture' is purely for show, nothing more. Hell, put it to a referendum. My money is that the majority would choose to stay with the current names. When it is defeated, the people pushing for this will complain anyway, but that's democracy. People like to think that under democracy, that their ideas/ideals matter, and should be made official, no matter how many people disagree with them. Whoever said that the measure of a good democracy is how it looks after it's minorities was wrong. Democracy is majority rules, dead simple. |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 767000 | 2009-04-24 03:27:00 | Been on a notice on one of the ferries for some time... looks quite good really... www.imagef1.net.nz | Scouse (83) | ||
| 767001 | 2009-04-24 06:15:00 | There's nothing wrong with there being official Maori placenames. But I don't see why a place having an an official Maori name means we're supposed to always use it in conjunction with the English name (where there is one) like "Te Wai Pounamu / the South Island". Why not use the Maori name in Maori and the English name in English. What this is really about is people wanting to make all it compulsory to call all places by their Maori names when speaking English. | GoodHour (12218) | ||
| 767002 | 2009-04-24 07:13:00 | Quick bit of research shows that 12 percent of maori's are fluent speakers in it, the rest obviously speak english. And 73ish percent of nz's are of european decent. So wheres the justification in renaming everything to suit the maori language? |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 767003 | 2009-04-24 08:19:00 | Yup, this sounds like us Maori's allright. Complain about everything that isnt going to make a difference, and too stubborn to admit that we are wrong. I suppose it all comes from the whole we were here first thing. Who cares. I've got a life to live, not complaining like the rest of my whanau. :P |
mabix (10146) | ||
| 767004 | 2009-04-24 08:41:00 | Im gad you arent offended, because none is meant Its always the minority screwing things up...the leaders i mean |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 767005 | 2009-04-24 09:43:00 | Im gad you arent offended, because none is meant Its always the minority screwing things up...the leaders i mean You got it dude. More the little guy wanting to have a big say :banana New Zealand Politics is a joke. It's nonsensical and illogical. Here we have a government who, no matter how much debate they have, can pass pretty much anything they have in parliament due to the sheer volume of votes that they have, and yet they still manage to spend hours every day arguing. Formalities have gone too far. I'd love to see these so-called "big shots" step down to the shoes of a normal worker and see how long they would last. They say they are there for "us" as a people, however, it seems that they are all always only there for their own personal interests/intentions. |
mabix (10146) | ||
| 767006 | 2009-04-24 09:49:00 | they are all always only there for their own personal interests/intentions. That's politicians. There are extremely few people who cares more about others than themselves. When you choose to be a politician you are obviously not one of those people. That is why humans are screwing up the world to no end. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 767007 | 2009-04-24 09:50:00 | Personally I dont think its a matter of complaining or being wrong, everyone has a choice to have an idea and express it, but when it is in a way that costs everybody and is almost demanded that it happens is wrong. Like mentioned earlier, its normally these 'leaders' that cause it, the others are put in a position where they either have to go along with it due to family ties or connections or they go against it and get branded an outcast by their own. I actually like Goodhours idea of being used in context. That would be ok. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 767008 | 2009-04-24 09:52:00 | Personally I dont think its a matter of complaining or being wrong, everyone has a choice to have an idea and express it, but when it is in a way that costs everybody and is almost demanded that it happens is wrong. Like mentioned earlier, its normally these 'leaders' that cause it, the others are put in a position where they either have to go along with it due to family ties or connections or they go against it and get branded an outcast by their own. I actually like Goodhours idea of being used in context. That would be ok. Yes, well, it's a shame we dont get much more of a say in these matters, unless you count one news calmair-brunton polls Shame we don't have more people like you in politics too. |
mabix (10146) | ||
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