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| Thread ID: 99346 | 2009-04-28 22:57:00 | Quiz For Intelligent People ONLY! | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 769289 | 2009-04-29 05:17:00 | Dwang = Noggin | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 769290 | 2009-04-29 05:26:00 | SJ doesn't seem to know what a dwang is but as it's use is probably confined to Scotland and New Zealand it is not surprising. I don't know if it is used in Oz | Dally (6292) | ||
| 769291 | 2009-04-29 05:43:00 | I don't think dwangs or noggins are used much if at all in America or Canada. I seem to remember my Canadian son saying they weren't used much, but then they use 6x2 instead of 4x2, and the timber is of infinitely higher quality and seasoned than the shitty Radiata pine used here. We have to use dwangs to keep the studs straight, as the timber dries out :rolleyes: ........... and they're useful for nailing wall board and things to. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 769292 | 2009-04-29 06:00:00 | We call them sheers. Either in the form of a diagonal cross brace of thinner material about 1 x 4 that is notched into one face of the wall studs themselves. That has gone the way of the Dodo though as we just sheerplate the studs with 3/8" (10mm) plywood or OSB. I have a pix (below) of some sheerplates going over the outer walls of a house "in the bones" and there's maybe a temporary diagonal brace that will be removed when the sheers are all in place later. Here's an interesting link for US construction techniques: images.google.com 0%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D120 |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 769293 | 2009-04-29 06:21:00 | We call them sheers. Either in the form of a diagonal cross brace of thinner material about 1 x 4 that is notched into one face of the wall studs themselves. That has gone the way of the Dodo though as we just sheerplate the studs with 3/8" (10mm) plywood or OSB. I have a pix (below) of some sheerplates going over the outer walls of a house "in the bones" and there's maybe a temporary diagonal brace that will be removed when the sheers are all in place later. Here's an interesting link for US construction techniques: images.google.com 0%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D120 From watching houses being built over recent years, that seems to be the method used here now. The plywood sheeting will provide much greater strength in the event of an earthquake than the flimsy steel angle diagonal bracing that used to be used, or diagonal bracing that was made from pieces of 4x2 nailed between the studs at 45deg. The earthquake we had at Edgecombe some years ago was a wakeup call for bracing standards. The houses that fell down were those that didn't have braced piles or proper wall bracing. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 769294 | 2009-04-29 06:52:00 | I don't think dwangs or noggins are used much if at all in America or Canada. I seem to remember my Canadian son saying they weren't used much, but then they use 6x2 instead of 4x2, and the timber is of infinitely higher quality and seasoned than the shitty Radiata pine used here. We have to use dwangs to keep the studs straight, as the timber dries out :rolleyes: ........... and they're useful for nailing wall board and things to. Dead right there, radiata only good for making paper and coffins. Give me rimu any day. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 769295 | 2009-04-29 08:57:00 | 6x2 studs in Canada, (And Minnesota) is not a matter of strength, you simply cannot get enough insulation in a 4" wall to handle their climate. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 769296 | 2009-04-29 08:59:00 | Dead right there, radiata only good for making paper and coffins. Give me rimu any day. The 4x2 rimu they used for building was of a much lower standard then modern pine. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 769297 | 2009-04-29 09:03:00 | We call them sheers . Either in the form of a diagonal cross brace of thinner material about 1 x 4 that is notched into one face of the wall studs themselves . That has gone the way of the Dodo though as we just sheerplate the studs with 3/8" (10mm) plywood or OSB . I have a pix (below) of some sheerplates going over the outer walls of a house "in the bones" and there's maybe a temporary diagonal brace that will be removed when the sheers are all in place later . Here's an interesting link for US construction techniques: . google . com/imgres?imgurl=http://www . sweethaven02 . com/BldgConst/Bldg02/fig0847 . jpg&imgrefurl=http://www . waybuilder . net/sweethaven/BldgConst/Building01/default . asp%3FiNum%3D0803&usg=__ayVJof1Rv3MMn6ySFjHYLGIK_bk=&h=264&w=277&sz=23&hl=en&start=139&tbnid=fwi-6klza-bidM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddiagonal%2Bbrace%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D2" target="_blank">images . google . com 0%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg . mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D120 I can see dwangs in the second and third pictures . You don't see them in Engand because they build in brick |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 769298 | 2009-04-29 09:46:00 | 6x2 studs in Canada, (And Minnesota) is not a matter of strength, you simply cannot get enough insulation in a 4" wall to handle their climate. That's right, they use 6inch "batts" for wall insulation. Strength is incidental, but it struck me when I first saw Canadian houses about 1981, how much stronger those houses would be in an earthquake with their box like construction of plywood cladding on walls and roof. The thing going for Radiata pine is the quick growing time, the downside is the widely spaced grain compared with cold climate northern hemisphere pines. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
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