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Thread ID: 99466	2009-05-03 04:44:00	If you're getting freeview on your PC	Speedy Gonzales (78)	PC World Chat

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770595	2009-05-03 04:44:00	WHAT are you using ? USB or PCI (dont know if you can get PCI)? / PCI-E?? Brought a Avermedia Volar X DVB-T USB tuner on Thursday last week, and man, you can tell the difference alright. FANTASTIC picture, on a monitor that supports HD. It came with a little mini rabbit ears hi gain aerial. It actually does a better job than the outside aerial. And a little remote. One good thing, about the program that came with it, is if the signal is in HDTV, it'll record in MP4 format (otherwise it'll record in MPEG2 automatically). You dont need something like DVBviewer (or another program to watch it). The program that came with it, is good enough). All you need is the program that came with it (Or Quicktime) to watch it, (what you recorded). You can get teletext / EPG / PIP (while youre playing back what you recorded). Not a bad tuner for $99 Did a test last night (recorded about 8 mins of back to the future II - 800 mb :lol: ouch). I didnt record all of it, but it would have taken up a few GB by the time it had finished.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
770596	2009-05-03 05:07:00	Hi Speedy - I have a Pinnacle USB terrestrial tuner (E73 I think?) I am really chuffed with it, except I have the same reservations about signal strength. The big problem is being unable to edit the recorded stuff. I would love to be able to chop off the extra time at the beginning and end, and possibly cutting out the ads on stuff I really want to keep. I actually bought the tuner based on a PCWorld (NZ) roadtest pcworld.co.nz where one of our reviewers said all this could be done. Unfortunately this does not seem to be so. A couple of PM's on the matter got me no closer to getting a solution at the time. Seems like, maybe PCWorld just did a copy and paste of an overseas review at the time. We use a different system to most other countries and whereas edit can be done with overseas countries which use the MPEG-2 format, our recording is different. I cannot record in any other than the "Native" format. No MPEG-2, DivX etc. Pinnacle have been no help either!! Have you the same problem with your new toy Speedy? Have you any idea what I could do to my problem? Any hep would be appreciated. :thumbs: Ken	kenj (9738)
770597	2009-05-03 05:11:00	Cheap and nasty K-World USB DVB-T tuner - about $30 or so, connected to a DSE amplified internal antenna (rabbit-ears). The setup works brilliantly, with reasonably good signal strength. I've had this going since a week or so before they "officially" launched Freeview. From the software side of things, I'm using DVBViewer, which was well worth the US$20 or whatever I paid for it. This software records video as the raw MPEG stream (.ts), so to do anything with it other than simply play it back in DVBViewer, I use Handbrake to convert it to a more usable format.	somebody (208)
770598	2009-05-03 05:21:00	Hi Speedy - I have a Pinnacle USB terrestrial tuner (E73 I think?) I am really chuffed with it, except I have the same reservations about signal strength. The mini aerial is fine on this (but the pic can stop (when the quality % goes down). An external aerial would probably fix that. The big problem is being unable to edit the recorded stuff. I would love to be able to chop off the extra time at the beginning and end, and possibly cutting out the ads on stuff I really want to keep. Umm a separate program (like Nerovision, there are others) would probably load the file, and let you edit it / cut the ads out. I've used Nerovision before to edit programs I've recorded). I cannot record in any other than the "Native" format. No MPEG-2, DivX etc. Pinnacle have been no help either!! Have you the same problem with your new toy Speedy? Have you any idea what I could do to my problem? Any hep would be appreciated. :thumbs: I havent come across the same prob (yet). Since by the looks of it, the program this tuner came with must (somehow) detect what kind of signal its picking up, and will record in either MPEG2 or MP4 (which according to most sites I've read, is Freeview's native format). The only formats this will record in, are either MPEG2, MP4, Audio only, MP4/H264, Ipod Video format. The only thing I've noticed so far (after I've recorded something in MP4), is it plays fine in the program (that this tuner uses to record with), but QT can / and does freeze, when you play the recorded video in it. In your case, its probably because Pinnacle's program doesnt support it (unless there's an update for it). Using another program (that recognises the tuner) would probably let you record in MP2. I have also read that unless your tuner supports MP4, (since this is Freeview's native format), you WON'T get Freeview at all.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
770599	2009-05-03 05:27:00	I wish we could get Freeview|HD up north! I have two Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus PCI cards receiving Freeview via satellite. Use MediaPortal for EPG and scheduling recordings etc. Depends on which channel I record as to how big the file ends up being as they all use different bitrates (which has been dropped recently)	CYaBro (73)
770600	2009-05-03 05:29:00	I have also read that unless your tuner supports MP4, (since this is Freeview's native format), you WON'T get Freeview at all. That's not quite correct. All the tuner needs to do is receive the DVB-T signal - everything else can be done by software decoding. This does put more strain on your CPU and/or graphics card though, but it works. For example, my DVB-T tuner doesn't support the MPEG4 H.264 format which Freeview is broadcast in, but it works fine.	somebody (208)
770601	2009-05-03 05:43:00	I have a Hauppage HVR-900H (USB), which works well (most of the time). The aerial it came with is rubbish, and the hauppage software is also rubbish. It also came with power cinema 5, which does freeview HD, however every now and then it has a hissy and gives me the BSOD :annoyed:. Thinking about getting DVBviewer as powercinema doesn't work very well, but I can't seem to find a trial version so if I purchased it I would have to hope it worked.	davidmmac (4619)
770602	2009-05-03 06:37:00	I wish we could get Freeview|HD up north! I have two Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus PCI cards receiving Freeview via satellite. Use MediaPortal for EPG and scheduling recordings etc. Depends on which channel I record as to how big the file ends up being as they all use different bitrates (which has been dropped recently) No HD in the Wairarapa either. I have 1 Nova S Plus running on GBPVR.	pine-o-cleen (2955)
770603	2009-05-03 07:00:00	According to the freeview site. The satellite service will be ‘Standard Definition’ (SD) for the foreseeable future. I think Terrestrial supports HD, Satellite doesnt	Speedy Gonzales (78)
770604	2009-05-03 07:52:00	According to the freeview site. The satellite service will be ‘Standard Definition’ (SD) for the foreseeable future. I think Terrestrial supports HD, Satellite doesnt Thats right, apparently the satellite transponder isn't HD compatable, and also there is only room for 20 (freeview) channels on the satellite, so eventually freeview HD will have more channels than freeview satellite. This (en.wikipedia.org(New_Zealand))page has some good info on it :thumbs:.	davidmmac (4619)
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