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Thread ID: 99454 2009-05-02 08:58:00 Chip Pan Poppa John (284) PC World Chat
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770417 2009-05-02 08:58:00 Hi All,
Many years ago our chip pan was a large lidded saucepan with a basket in it. We used beef dripping.

Now we have an electric chip pan & use vegetable oil, usually Canola.

My question is. How do you clean the chip pan? Using hot water with detergent isn't much good. What do you use.

Beef drippind is supposedly bad for you, but made tasty chips. So what does this new fangled cooking oil do to our guts.?

Cannot use Butter as it is bad for your heart. Is Margarine made from various oils really any better? I think not. PJ
Poppa John (284)
770418 2009-05-02 09:01:00 Is Margarine made from various oils really any better? I think not. PJ

Nope - neither is the "vegetable oil" (aka Palm oil) used in a lot of fish and chip shops, and in a lot of prepackaged foods. Using canola oil is definitely the better way to go.
somebody (208)
770419 2009-05-02 09:14:00 Very wasteful. Use old engine oil, not good for the guts, but it sure does wipe out those intestinal parasites and you will never suffer from the dreaded gut rust. ;) R2x1 (4628)
770420 2009-05-02 09:20:00 We use an electric Deep Fryer, when finished I just run the canola back into a 4 litre container through a sieve and throw the main part of the deep fryer in the dishwasher, it comes up fine.

The old pot we used to use in London in the flat we never cleaned, we just threw a lid on it to keep the dust out. It worked fine for many years until some drunken bastard came home one night and set it alight.

If your worried about what is bad for you you would rarely step foot outside the door in case you got hit by a bus or caught swine flue. You have to accept a bit of risk if you want to enjoy life.
Bantu (52)
770421 2009-05-02 09:21:00 Very wasteful. Use old engine oil, not good for the guts, but it sure does wipe out those intestinal parasites and you will never suffer from the dreaded gut rust. ;)

Idjit!!!!! PJ
Poppa John (284)
770422 2009-05-02 09:38:00 www.healthy-eating-politics.com

www.mindbodyhealth.com
pctek (84)
770423 2009-05-02 15:03:00 www.healthy-eating-politics.com

www.mindbodyhealth.com

A brief look at these 2 websites gave me a few things to agree with & much I thought was sheer rubbish.
So not surprised when I delved further & found neither author seems to have any medical or nutrition qualifications whatsoever.

No 1 -The woman who lives on 12 prairie acres with her boyfriend admits that herself. Her advice is just stuff she's decided through thinking about it...
Well, hello!!

No 2 -The bloke is more coy, though his is a "selling" website & homeopathy is mentioned.
I believe that's the one where you put your chosen medicine into water & then you take it out again & then you drink only the water . Apparently, it has " a memory" of the medicine, even when it's gone.
(And if any PF1ers are homeopathists, I apologise if I got that description wrong. And no, I don't want to be told again how it's been proved to work. Been there, done that in a previous existence).

Thanks for the perfect example of the maxim :"Not everything you find on the Web is true, you know..."
Laura (43)
770424 2009-05-02 16:31:00 Hi All,
Many years ago our chip pan was a large lidded saucepan with a basket in it. We used beef dripping.

Now we have an electric chip pan & use vegetable oil, usually Canola.

My question is. How do you clean the chip pan? Using hot water with detergent isn't much good. What do you use.

Beef drippind is supposedly bad for you, but made tasty chips. So what does this new fangled cooking oil do to our guts.?

Cannot use Butter as it is bad for your heart. Is Margarine made from various oils really any better? I think not. PJ

I use a saucepan and a strainer as you once did. My Ex did that at one time and got caught with a phone call while the chips were cooking without a strainer. I walked in from the garden and found the kitchen on fire. We put the fire out but the landlord had to cough up for the painting etc. We bought an electric animal after that which she left to me when she moved out. Later she asked for it back and gave it to another person.

When I cook chips these days I stand over the pot. Sunflower oil works for me at the moment. I also shove dripping in that drops off the roasts I make which include Beef, Pork, Lamb, Mutton and Poultry. You scrape the fat off the top and use what remains for gravy with water and cornflower.

I am still alive too.

I have no idea how you clean a chip pan as I never used it.

Hopefully a person will come up with a method.

As I understand it my Ex buys MaCains and puts them in the oven these days.
Sweep (90)
770425 2009-05-02 22:00:00 A brief look at these 2 websites gave me a few things to agree with & much I thought was sheer rubbish.


Yep.
You can say the same for the opposite theory too.
pctek (84)
770426 2009-05-02 23:03:00 From here:

tinyurl.com

Belfast homeopathy results

MADELEINE Ennis, a pharmacologist at Queen's University, Belfast, was the scourge of homeopathy. She railed against its claims that a chemical remedy could be diluted to the point where a sample was unlikely to contain a single molecule of anything but water, and yet still have a healing effect. Until, that is, she set out to prove once and for all that homeopathy was bunkum.

In her most recent paper, Ennis describes how her team looked at the effects of ultra-dilute solutions of histamine on human white blood cells involved in inflammation. These "basophils" release histamine when the cells are under attack. Once released, the histamine stops them releasing any more. The study, replicated in four different labs, found that homeopathic solutions - so dilute that they probably didn't contain a single histamine molecule - worked just like histamine. Ennis might not be happy with the homeopaths' claims, but she admits that an effect cannot be ruled out.

So how could it happen? Homeopaths prepare their remedies by dissolving things like charcoal, deadly nightshade or spider venom in ethanol, and then diluting this "mother tincture" in water again and again. No matter what the level of dilution, homeopaths claim, the original remedy leaves some kind of imprint on the water molecules. Thus, however dilute the solution becomes, it is still imbued with the properties of the remedy.

You can understand why Ennis remains sceptical. And it remains true that no homeopathic remedy has ever been shown to work in a large randomised placebo-controlled clinical trial. But the Belfast study (Inflammation Research, vol 53, p 181) suggests that something is going on. "We are," Ennis says in her paper, "unable to explain our findings and are reporting them to encourage others to investigate this phenomenon." If the results turn out to be real, she says, the implications are profound: we may have to rewrite physics and chemistry.
zqwerty (97)
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