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863892 2010-03-04 04:14:00 Oh, yeah, I missed the katoa - but it is koto rather than koutu isn't it? I did enrol for Te Reo once but I withdrew because of a timetable clash .



Lol, we were both wrong, it should be tena koutou katoa according to my Maori vocab book .

Any way good luck in whatever you choose .

Haere ra, LL :p:cool:
lakewoodlady (103)
863893 2010-03-04 08:53:00 You sound like a perfect candidate as an advisor to a Govt minister so maybe become a civil servant .

Are you saying that cynically? o_O!

It's not that I lack passion for IT - more that I have found a lot of the IT work I've done in the past, and IT work that I've seen/heard others do hasn't sounded particularly engaging . The reason that I'm seeking to do the certifications I talked about in the first post is that it would be a means to an ends .

Though my ultimate goal is to start a business I can't conceivably do that without having worked for a while to save some startup capital . As such, I am working now and will continue working at least until the end of my degree with the hopes that I am well on the wayamount to having enough to meet startup costs by the end of that time . However, I'm not earning a high hourly rate at the moment (courtesy of my age, experience and qualifications) so I'm hoping to do what I can to raise my pay :)
Aurealis_ (7897)
863894 2010-03-04 09:06:00 tena koutou katoa
That is right, from memory :)

Aurealis - Have you spoken to a career advisor yet?
Renmoo (66)
863895 2010-03-04 19:16:00 It's not that I lack passion for IT - I have found a lot of the IT work I've done and IT work that I've seen/heard others do hasn't sounded particularly engaging .

Yep .
You aren't into IT .
Do something else .
pctek (84)
863896 2010-03-04 23:14:00 If you do something you truly love, you will never work another day for the rest of your life . Take up an occupation that doesn't engage you, and every week will feel like a lifetime .

I chose an occupational area that I truly loved and not only have I not done a days work since leaving school, I've also travelled the world at no cost thanks to that choice . There's not been one morning that I didn't wake up and look forward to what challenges the day might bring .

If you are as yet undecided about what you really want to do, either go out and sample a range of occupations, talk to people working in them, or do as pctek suggested and travel, that will help you realise what you want to do with your life .

It will also help you get your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds as well, which will remove the moisture from behind your ears .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
863897 2010-03-04 23:36:00 Are you saying that cynically? o_O!

It's not that I lack passion for IT - more that I have found a lot of the IT work I've done in the past, and IT work that I've seen/heard others do hasn't sounded particularly engaging. The reason that I'm seeking to do the certifications I talked about in the first post is that it would be a means to an ends.

Though my ultimate goal is to start a business I can't conceivably do that without having worked for a while to save some startup capital. As such, I am working now and will continue working at least until the end of my degree with the hopes that I am well on the wayamount to having enough to meet startup costs by the end of that time. However, I'm not earning a high hourly rate at the moment (courtesy of my age, experience and qualifications) so I'm hoping to do what I can to raise my pay :)

I was 100% serious. You can get paid serious money. You can move from Dept to Dept. You can get get transfers to other locations etc. You normally have an occupation for life.
Sweep (90)
863898 2010-03-04 23:50:00 New Zealand doesn't employ Civil Servants, but rather Public Servants :) Zippity (58)
863899 2010-03-05 00:24:00 I was 100% serious . You can get paid serious money . You can move from Dept to Dept . You can get get transfers to other locations etc . You normally have an occupation for life .

Hmmm, perhaps . But where does one start? Apply for the low level positions that are going in council/govt now and work the way up?



Aurealis - Have you spoken to a career advisor yet?

No, I was planning to do that when the careers fair comes around at uni .


It will also help you get your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds as well, which will remove the moisture from behind your ears .

My head isn't in the clouds . I know what my talents are, I know the effect I would have working in a company and I am confident of how good I am . Nothing is predetermined - there are plenty of people older than me whom you would find to make decisions with much less wisdom than myself . Although it is true that I am inexperienced one can't discount the power of an individual to learn and adapt .

Furthermore, one should remember that inexperience can often be detrimental as it leads people to believe that their method is 'correct' or 'proper' even when there are more efficient and intelligent means to do the same thing . What I'm saying is . . . that it's all well and good to say that I don't know what to do, but the counter to that is that I'm not bound to doing something only one way . ;)
Aurealis_ (7897)
863900 2010-03-05 02:04:00 Furthermore, one should remember that inexperience can often be detrimental as it leads people to believe that their method is 'correct' or 'proper' even when there are more efficient and intelligent means to do the same thing .

Did you really mean to say that???

I think you may have been meaning that past experience can often block initiative, along the lines of "we've always done it that way so there's no need to change . "

However, if you did mean to say it then best you stay out of positions of responsibility for a while longer .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
863901 2010-03-05 02:42:00 Did you really mean to say that???

I think you may have been meaning that past experience can often block initiative, along the lines of "we've always done it that way so there's no need to change . "

However, if you did mean to say it then best you stay out of positions of responsibility for a while longer .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

I meant the former . I believe in leaving room for fresh approaches and in my experience the culture is often exactly as you said "this is the way we've always done it and therefore the way it will be done next time" . I don't think that's an intelligent position to take but it's not my place to say .

However, it's not like it has been a problem at all for me - I am happy to accept the methods of my employer but I do think it is their sacrifice not to listen to new ideas ;) Know what I mean?
Aurealis_ (7897)
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