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| Thread ID: 99689 | 2009-05-11 04:38:00 | Getting a Firearms licence | ubergeek85 (131) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 773021 | 2009-05-11 20:22:00 | Just what we need, more guns in the community. I think not. Get your dad to get you something useful instead. |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 773022 | 2009-05-11 20:30:00 | www.nzherald.co.nz Worlds biggest numbnuts philip alpers still ranting about gun ownership in New Zealand. Like cars guns dont kill people, people kill people. Guns are needed to kill pests and game. Every proper farm in NZ has at least a .22, .303 and a shottie thats the way its been and thats way its gunna stay. My gun locker which has passed 2 inspections is a lockable wooden wardrobe in the garage. Think it has to be 6mm steel for autos and pistolas etc. Since my garage is 50m from house I would be buggered in a home invasion but I have a crossbow under the bed. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 773023 | 2009-05-12 01:16:00 | Just what we need, more guns in the community. I think not. Get your dad to get you something useful instead. What a boring old fart.:angry |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 773024 | 2009-05-12 01:19:00 | And the main thing I remember is that suddenly all shooters, even if they never touched a gun outside duck-shooting season, were assessed for more than their technical ability. Someone had realised that maybe not everyone who could shoot a gun should necessarily HAVE one... Certainly in Central Otago, the police were very thorough in following up the "psychological" side of things. Interviews with wives & partners were obligatory - and they were asked if they felt OK about the licence being issued. And if they said no, that was that. No licence! . Nothing much has changed in regards to the vetting of potential gun owners. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 773025 | 2009-05-12 01:45:00 | Since this guy didn't have a gun licence knee jerk reactions are not required to hammer people with a licence. If an unlicensed driver causes a fatal vehicle crash and kills say 6 people would the knee jerkers try and alter driver licencing? Because there are now an unknown amount of guns in NZ and will be unknown for eternity the idea is to police the liscenced users not the guns. But crooks dont bother with liscences and will get guns by stealing them. You cant ban guns like Singapore because we have wild pigs, deer, rabbits. stoats, ducks etc that need keeping under control. What disturbs me is the amount of pistolas that are sneaked into NZ by concealing in cars from USA. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 773026 | 2009-05-12 01:55:00 | Just what we need, more guns in the community. I think not. Get your dad to get you something useful instead. Well, he asked me what I wanted. Initally, I asked for an airgun because we both go possum hunting a bit, but we worked out that it would be cheaper and better if I got a licence, then we can both carry guns, and a .22 will beat the pants off of all but the best airguns. Who said anything about me using a gun to hold up a diary? And anyway, a few weeks back on 20/20, it had a piece on how ineffective guns are in the event that someone decides to make your day alot worse. |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 773027 | 2009-05-12 04:31:00 | The part that worries me is that if I had a firearms licence I would be compelled to have the firearm in a steel cabinet with a padlock. This would make sure that I can't have quick and easy access in a hurry. That way when the home invasion happens the invader notices I have a steel cabinet (which is a dead giveaway) and demands the key to the padlock under penalty of serious harm to me and mine. I, of course, give in and hand over the key. The offender then takes the gun and carries on with the aforementioned threat anyway. You just can't trust these home invaders to tell the truth now can you? You can't trust some people on TradeMe not to sell you a firearm before you send them a copy of the licence either for that matter. I'd rather be a live cynic than be dead or seriously beaten. I have never had my firearms in a steel cabinet. They do get locked in a police approved rifle rack that is just under the stairs. |
plod (107) | ||
| 773028 | 2009-05-12 06:05:00 | You would be lucky to kill a possy with an air rifle doesnt matter how powerful it is although someone is going to mention the policeman shot with one. I have seen possys take multiple hits with .22 solid rounds and not die. Different story of course with .22 soft nose a head shot normally snuffs out their mortal coil. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 773029 | 2009-05-12 06:07:00 | It's amazing what can be done with dubious statistics............. According to this www.nzherald.co.nz there are about 1.2 million guns in NZ, though I've seen between 850,000 and 1.5 Million mentioned. According to this www.transit.govt.nz there are about 3.8 million registered vehicles in NZ. According to this www.police.govt.nz there are about 404 road deaths a year. So if a gun was as dangerous as a car, we would expect about 127 gun deaths a year. However I read somewhere (I lost the url) that between 1993 and 1998 there were 55 gun deaths ie about 11 deaths a year. This means a gun is about 11 times safer than a car :wub |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 773030 | 2009-05-12 06:44:00 | Some of the air rifles available are just as effective at killing possums as .22s. And no complaints from th e neighbours either, as no noise. 1000 feet/sec muzzle velocity from an air gun isn't too bad is it. :thumbs: | Richard (739) | ||
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