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866636 2010-03-17 20:34:00 Thing is, GPUs can actually be faster than your CPU for doing some things.

Take RAR archive password cracking for example, much faster when running on a GPU than CPU.

I read this example once: "If the computer was to read a book, the CPU reads each page, then goes onto the next one, as normal. However the GPU tears each page up into 500 pieces and reads all the pieces at the same time"


Sure I am being a little harsh, but its generally to counter the Hysteria, there are actually people installing second GPU's just to run PhysX for gaming lol.

Largely for gaming im not buying into it, the "small" improvements can 100% be handled by the CPU if coded to do so. PhysX is a artificially introduced need and I am in little doubt Nvidia pay developers to use it.
Battleneter2 (9361)
866637 2010-03-18 00:30:00 Sure I am being a little harsh, but its generally to counter the Hysteria, there are actually people installing second GPU's just to run PhysX for gaming lol .

Largely for gaming im not buying into it, the "small" improvements can 100% be handled by the CPU if coded to do so . PhysX is a artificially introduced need and I am in little doubt Nvidia pay developers to use it .

Of course PhysX is just a luxury, something else to make the game fun, it certainly looks better with than without . . . !
SolMiester (139)
866638 2010-03-18 00:53:00 Of course PhysX is just a luxury, something else to make the game fun, it certainly looks better with than without...!

There are next to no CUDA utilizing programs that you or I would want to use and PhysX only works in games that are coded for it (there are currently only 17 and chances are, you don't play them (www.nzone.com)). PhysX is nothing special as ATI have their own standard that's GPU independant (ie: you can use it regardless of hardware). Theres some suggestion that game studios are effectively bribed to use PhysX...

NVidia's upcoming cards are expensive and inferior and no amount of "value-added" PR spin can save them from that.

By all means, spend your cash on nVidia. Just know the facts before you get all nostalgic and spend your money on fancy marketing and rubbish products.
Thebananamonkey (7741)
866639 2010-03-18 02:18:00 Of course PhysX is just a luxury, something else to make the game fun, it certainly looks better with than without...!

Its useful as Nvidia pay developers to use it and create a small false advantage..

The CryEngine 2 (crysis) is still the heaviest physics engine available and it doesn't use PhysX. The draw distance and amount of physics inside the sandbox is enormous.

When you look at a "vastly" inferior game engine like the one used in Batman Arkham, you seriously can't tell me the CPU cant do a few calculations for shuffling a few papers around on the floor and cape waving lol. Its almost insulting when you stop to think about it.

Uses like encoding and compression are another issue.
Battleneter2 (9361)
866640 2010-03-18 02:34:00 Intel I7 920@4 . 0 GHz (1 . 2V)
Gigabyte GTX 275 O/C



Now there's something I see a lot with generic "gaming" machines .

If I was going to use a top CPU I'd pair it with the top graphics card .

GPU first, then CPU . Always . CPU first for gaming is pointless .
pctek (84)
866641 2010-03-18 03:50:00 There are next to no CUDA utilizing programs that you or I would want to use and PhysX only works in games that are coded for it (there are currently only 17 and chances are, you don't play them (www.nzone.com)).

Pretty true actually, the only one I have from that list is Mirror's Edge :lol:
Agent_24 (57)
866642 2010-03-18 04:19:00 I cant remember if ive posted in this thread or not but I'd go 4890. Best value for money and dx11 won't matter for a while yet. Good luck finding one though! hueybot3000 (3646)
866643 2010-03-18 07:56:00 GPU first, then CPU. Always. CPU first for gaming is pointless.

CPU bound games are rare I guess.
dian77 (13936)
866644 2010-03-18 10:02:00 The shop I was going to buy it off already sold it to someone else, it was their last one and I missed their email :( :(

Maybe I'll just get the HD5770, I'll probably have to, now.
Agent_24 (57)
866645 2010-03-18 10:36:00 Now there's something I see a lot with generic "gaming" machines.

If I was going to use a top CPU I'd pair it with the top graphics card.

GPU first, then CPU. Always. CPU first for gaming is pointless.

Lol @ this, try running BC2 with a dual core. I assure you a i7 920 OC will beat a core 2 duo with better graphics card

And more and more games are coming out opt for quads
Ollie (794)
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