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| Thread ID: 100099 | 2009-05-26 07:37:00 | The Great Ethanol Scam | zqwerty (97) | PC World Chat |
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| 776964 | 2009-05-26 07:37:00 | Anyone knowledgeable on this subject care to comment, do we have ethanol added to our fuel? tinyurl.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 776965 | 2009-05-26 07:53:00 | Gull has been offering the ethanol blended fuel for some time. More info here: Tips for using ethanol fuel (www.consumer.org.nz) Suitability of Gull Force10 fuel (www.aa.co.nz) |
Jen (38) | ||
| 776966 | 2009-05-26 08:11:00 | The whole biofuel/ethanol hype is just that - hype - or as some people put it, "greenwashing". It will never seriously tackle the environmental problems caused by burning fuels, and in the meantime, will cause untold environmental harm as people cut down rainforests (or repurpose land otherwise used for growing food) to grow palm, sugarcane, and so on. To seriously make a dent, we need to move towards electric, hydrogen, or air powered cars. I look forward to Mitsubishi's i-Miev all electric vehicle coming to our shores (apparently it's being tested by Meridian Energy and some lucky volunteers). |
somebody (208) | ||
| 776967 | 2009-05-26 09:20:00 | Some alternative fuels have been around for a long time. I would guess that the major fuel companies just squash any real attempts to get them off the ground as a main stream alternative. Invermay Research centre near Dunedin had engines running off gas given from Maize back in the early 1970's. Los Angeles have a lot of Electric charging points at Major shopping malls which gives users of Electric cars priority parking for now. Norway would have one of the most advanced alternative fuel systems in the world at this point, with outlets for their fuel over all of Norway. There was a 3 part series on TV about it all a few months ago. |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 776968 | 2009-05-26 12:48:00 | The effects of ethanol mixes are well known in Australia. They are corrosive, and do not keep well. www.brisbanetimes.com.au | vinref (6194) | ||
| 776969 | 2009-05-26 21:37:00 | id be quite happy if they brought a E15 Pump to invercargill as that would suit my car perfectly - not potent enough to corrode fuel systems but it would carry the perfect octane to keep the bloody thing from pinging so much honestly the best we can get here is 95 and that seems to be just 91 with the tanker driver adding a $10 repco special bottle of octane booster to the tank :lol: but if E15 were to come along id gladly use that i suppose its my fault for buying a high strung jap car :p |
MAC_H8ER (5897) | ||
| 776970 | 2009-05-26 23:48:00 | The Brazilians have had their **** together on this 25 years ago and made the fuel components from plastic or non corrodible metal. They had Kraut beetles running on the stuff like swiss clocks. Dont need to invent the wheel its possible to run 100 ethanol if you design the engine for it. I guess it would be low compression to stop pre ignition |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 776971 | 2009-05-27 00:11:00 | The Brazilians have had their **** together on this 25 years ago and made the fuel components from plastic or non corrodible metal. They had Kraut beetles running on the stuff like swiss clocks. Dont need to invent the wheel its possible to run 100 ethanol if you design the engine for it. I guess it would be low compression to stop pre ignition Exactlty the reverse, much much higher compression and bigger jets. This was used as a racing fuel, bikes had something like 14:1 compression ratio. In the period around 1956 to 1960 something Cleveland in the UK reintroduced (it had been available in the 1930s) Cleveland Discol in premium grade and then Super 100 octane grade. It was great stuff, not sure of the alcohol percentage, but probably around 15%. I did see one reference that said 30% , but I dont think that can be right. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 776972 | 2009-05-27 00:18:00 | Ok I stand corrected. I suppose the bigger jets would be required because by volume it has less calorific valve than petrol. Ah the smell of racing fuel and castrol oil. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 776973 | 2009-05-27 00:21:00 | I used to add a couple of teaspoonfuls of Castrol R castor oil to the petrol tank as an "upper cylinder lubricant", but mainly to generate that unmistakeable smell :clap | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
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