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| Thread ID: 100139 | 2009-05-27 10:59:00 | Zookeeper mauled to death - cats "agitated" | Zippity (58) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 777453 | 2009-05-29 23:05:00 | And after reading this www.nzherald.co.nz I think its time for a change of management. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 777454 | 2009-05-29 23:23:00 | Yes I agree just read it thanks to Metla for posting the link | gary67 (56) | ||
| 777455 | 2009-05-29 23:56:00 | If managament at park says the public doesn't know what you are talking about and the lion should get shot dont expect the public to pay money to go there then. Shooting a caged zoo animal isnt the same as shooting a free roaming dangerous mutt or even a free range killer chicken. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 777456 | 2009-05-30 00:05:00 | Seems that there is a few issues going on here. The argument that the cat didn't deserve to be shot because it was locked up in a cage is nonsense. However, don't get me wrong, it was an absolute shame that a beautiful piece of creation like that was destroyed. Nevertheless, for whatever reason it was. My thinking is that anyone who has seen these animals in the wild would be very nervous approaching one without a barrier in between themselves and it. Dalu Mncube, as a South African, would have presumably had considerable experience in dealing with these animals. Therefore, it beats me why he would put himself in the position that he got into that fateful day. It sounds like this was a regular occurrence too, which is even more strange. It sounds to me like Zion Park was catering very much to those who have been brought up on a diet of Steve Irwin style conservation and therefore adopted practices that would be discouraged by all sensible people. These animals are not purely oversized domesticated cats, and I am sure everyone would agree on that. Nevertheless, Dalu did get into a position where the animal did probably what came instinctively to it. It's an unfortunate fact that perhaps it was a short moment of inattention that he failed to notice a change in the cats behaviour, however, it might well have been something that merely 'snapped' in the animal that resulted in this incident. We will never know. Did the cat do something wrong? No, this is what animals like this do every day in the wild. However, I think putting people into the cage and letting them fondle animals like this is merely tempting fate and is ridiculous. As for the shooting of the Tiger, none of us were there at the time. Whether Dalu was dead or not at the time of the Tiger's death is immaterial. One can only imagine what was going through the heads of the staff as they watched their friend being mauled. Quite honestly, I would have done exactly the same thing. I doubt anyone set out to destroy the animal (this is evidenced by the escalation of means with which to distract it) but this was the end result. I don't think anyone here or anywhere else has the right to judge or second guess the actions of these individuals. Already, New Zealand suffers far too much from those who sit in the wings and judge the actions of people placed in situations like these. The question is what would you have done? Sure, some might say they would never have shot the animal. But, just for a moment, imagine it was YOUR friend being mauled. could you live with yourself knowing that perhaps you saved the life of an admittedly beautiful creature but potentially at the expense of the life of your friend? I don't think I could. All in all, I think what occurred was a regrettable incident. However, in all honesty it probably was brought on to some degree by the illogical and in some ways, irresponsible actions of park management that was catering to society's flawed view of these animals. Anyway, just my $0.02... Cheers |
PaulBNZ (9317) | ||
| 777457 | 2009-05-30 01:06:00 | With a name like WolfForest, I'm not sure that is as obvious as you think. Sorry batteryman, I'll try and make it more obvious for idiots next time :) |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 777458 | 2009-05-30 01:19:00 | Something similar to read here (www.independent.co.uk) and more here (www.telegraph.co.uk) not exactly the same but the results were similar. I grew up in the shadow of both of these places, when I was a kid locals got in at a reduced rate for 1 allowing consents for the parks and 2 because of the danger if anything ever escaped anyway have a read neither article is very long |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 777459 | 2009-05-30 01:44:00 | Sorry batteryman, I'll try and make it more obvious for idiots next time :) Pitch it at yourself and you might find some clarity. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 777460 | 2009-05-30 01:48:00 | And after reading this www.nzherald.co.nz I think its time for a change of management. If the tiger was shot as is now reported during the attack, I can't see any issue in shooting it. If it was shot later, then that seems pointless. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 777461 | 2009-05-30 03:37:00 | In Africa we always used to shoot any animals that attacked humans, domestic dogs got 2 chances if they bit someone, third time police came out and shot them on sight, like they say on Alien, 'only way to be sure'. Once a large predator gets a taste for humans and realize how easy we are to attack and kill they don't stop, at least that's what colonial folk-lore had us believe. Sharks the same, eliminate by any means necessary, an ancient and deadly unfeeling predator from the past, crocodiles as well, silly people putting future children at risk in Australia and elsewhere because of misplaced green B.S. and sentimentality. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 777462 | 2009-05-30 04:18:00 | And after reading this www.nzherald.co.nz I think its time for a change of management. I agree with a possible change of management. The Tiger was shot with a shotgun and .308 as well according to your News link while the person was being mauled. Was this one person carrying two firearms and used both. And why did Park staff have easy access to firearms? And why was the keeper in the cage as if we believe it he was an experienced person and should have known better? Pleased no visitors got in the way of pellets from a shotgun or a .308 bullet from a rifle. Back to the news. |
Sweep (90) | ||
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