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Thread ID: 100158 2009-05-28 06:08:00 2 RULES prefect (6291) PC World Chat
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777677 2009-05-28 08:23:00 The Guy in Waitara was innocent?

OSH have powers to prosecute as do Police for that matter. Army incidents are usually held as a Court Martial.




What was he convicted of?, beside being executed on the street?




Anyway, I am well aware that OSH have the ability to prosecute matters which fall under their jurisdiction, I was musing on where that jurisdiction ends when it comes to an police employee shooting someone dead during the course of their work.
Metla (12)
777678 2009-05-28 11:00:00 What was he convicted of?, beside being executed on the street?




Anyway, I am well aware that OSH have the ability to prosecute matters which fall under their jurisdiction, I was musing on where that jurisdiction ends when it comes to an police employee shooting someone dead during the course of their work.

The person in Waitara was not convicted of anything to my knowledge.

Any time you get hit on the head with a golf club I suggest you just stand there and take it and then the Police may take the matter to court after the event or not as the case may be.

You may or may not be there to testify depending on whether you are still alive. If you get dead then it would normally follow that you can't be called as a witness as I have not yet seen any dead people called as a witness to date so far.

Shooting a person dead would be a useless thing to do in my opinion. If the person is dead then why shoot anyway?

I don't suppose the Lion or Tiger got a fair trial either before being executed on the spot for that matter.

Now musing on Sheepdog trials. I wonder how many are found guilty during these?

Also as the re trial of David Bain is now winding up I note that none of the dead people are actually called as witnesses for some reason.

Only one person knows for sure and that would be the actual killer whoever that was. This killer was David, Robin or another person even.

I might add that if you join the armed forces you get to kill people in the course of your job.

You want the job?
Sweep (90)
777679 2009-05-28 11:03:00 As much as I wouldn't stand there to be hit on the head nor would I go to the police about it, I'd rather take my chances with the guy holding the golf club. Metla (12)
777680 2009-05-28 11:14:00 Well Metla just take your chances.

Be aware that all these things are easy to sort out in hindsight but sometimes you only have seconds to respond.

You do not always have time to think about the consequences of your actions.
Sweep (90)
777681 2009-05-28 11:19:00 All the more reason not to invite a twat with a gun into the equation. Metla (12)
777682 2009-05-28 11:28:00 The person in Waitara was not convicted of anything to my knowledge.Correct, except for acting erratically and swinging a golf club. Hell I know many people (myself included) who have done this while holding (or throwing; dependent on how bad the shot was) a golf club Myth (110)
777683 2009-05-28 21:19:00 I bet if I was out hunting and I accidentally shot my mate the police would charge me.


Yes, you would get charged and probably convicted of manslaughter. If you followed safety procedures and were not negligent or reckless and showed genuine remorse you probably would get a suspended sentence or no sentence at all. But if you were shooting Rambo style while drunk, prison would be likely.

However, imagine that you were hunting and came across another person with a gun who was shooting at others (not in their self defense but clearly unnecessarily endangering others people 'with a mean intent'). You then aimed your rifle at this person in order to prevent them killing others, but your shot missed and instead killed an innocent person. In this case would you be convicted of a crime? No, but surely your case would go to court and be thoroughly investigated.
Strommer (42)
777684 2009-05-28 23:28:00 the Derek Wooton case today, the thug that ran him over and killed him only got 8 years jail. Should of been at least 20 years.) I think that was the right decision.
:)

/www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1088796.html

In usa person gets 65 years for organizing money to a country under siege.
The guy above could be out on parole as early as 4 years, seems a cop life is taken very cheaply by a judge. The minister of justice should sack the judge he isn't a fit person to sit on a bench. I hope the crown appeals the sentence.
If I fired at someone and hit someone else I would expect to be done for manslaughter for breaking id target and background rule before firing.
prefect (6291)
777685 2009-05-29 05:49:00 That would depend if their job was to protect people or kill them.

Neither, their job is to collect evidence and/or prosecute people after the crime has been committed.
shermo (12739)
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