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Thread ID: 100158	2009-05-28 06:08:00	2 RULES	prefect (6291)	PC World Chat

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777667	2009-05-28 06:08:00	www.nzherald.co.nz Funny police shoot someone by accident no charge. I bet if I was out hunting and I accidentally shot my mate the police would charge me. OSH say there is no such thing as an accidental accident without the employer getting fined heavily. Blardy stink the police getting away scott free.	prefect (6291)
777668	2009-05-28 06:34:00	An armed offender situation has absolutely nothing to do with a hunting accident. I suggest you wait until you yourself have been in the position the police were in before you make such a comment.	CliveM (6007)
777669	2009-05-28 06:40:00	If the police don't shoot (i.e. the Jan Moleanar case), people ask why they didn't do anything. If the police do shoot, people ask why they pulled out a gun rather than pepperspray. If the police don't shoot, and an innocent bystander is killed, people ask why they didn't do anything. If the police do shoot, and an innocent bystander is killed, people ask why they didn't do more. If the police do shoot,, and accidentally kill an innocent bystander, people jump up and down. It's always a lose-lose-lose situation. Accidents happen, and while this is an extremely unfortunately case for the victim's family, the decision is the right one. If we start prosecuting AOS members for accidents like these (and let's remember, these are very rare), then the highly skilled and trained police who volunteer for the AOS will get out - after all, who would want to risk being prosecuted for simply doing their jobs.	somebody (208)
777670	2009-05-28 06:56:00	Do you have problems scrolling down? It ain't all over yet. "The Independent Police Conduct Authority investigation and the Coroner's investigation are still ongoing." Besides which I have massive problems believing what the News media choose to print or broadcast in any event. My name was printed in our local Fairfax Newspaper yesterday and the actual story differed from what I actually said during a submission to our local Council. The newspaper attributed words I did not say and left out words I did say. The general idea was there but was not what I actually said. Therefore I will be sending off a letter to the Editor over the next couple of days when I have had time to think about what was said and what was published and the differences between the two. This is not the first time I have seen this happen either for that matter.	Sweep (90)
777671	2009-05-28 06:58:00	The police always say id your target and the background before you fire but they dont always follow their own rules thats all I am saying. Ask Metla, OSH dont believe any accident is unavoidable and they prosecute all and sundry. In this case imo its double standards.	prefect (6291)
777672	2009-05-28 07:12:00	But there is one law for Maorii and another for a Pakeha as it stands today. Police have exemption from some rules in so far as they can exceed 50 Kph in a 50 Kph area as can Ambulance or Fire appliances for example. Couriers have an exemption on the rules regarding seatbelts also. In the event you get charged with any offence you have the right to take it to court. Last time I got an infringement notice for failing to wear a seat belt I did that. The Police withdrew and it cost me nothing apart from time.	Sweep (90)
777673	2009-05-28 07:31:00	The Police were only doing there job. I'm sorry I don't agree again with you prefect. ( Not living far from the Moleanar incident who he shot 4 people in cold blood in the back and killing one Police Officer, also the Derek Wooton case today, the thug that ran him over and killed him only got 8 years jail. Should of been at least 20 years.) I think that was the right decision. :)	Trev (427)
777674	2009-05-28 07:36:00	I doubt anyone believes they should have an exception to shoot innocent people dead, Though they certainly set a precedent with the guy in Waitara. At the very least they should make public all information that lead them to not lay charges. As for OSH, What I said is they will always prosecute in the event of a death, I have no idea what jurisdiction they have on police matters. I know they can only look into Army incidents if invited to or if an official investigation is launched.	Metla (12)
777675	2009-05-28 07:39:00	The Police were only doing there job. :) That would depend if there job was to protect people or kill them. They may have been trying to do their job, but they muffed it up about as bad as you can muff up a job, And the fact that they are handed guns should mean they are accountable for their use.	Metla (12)
777676	2009-05-28 08:01:00	I doubt anyone believes they should have an exception to shoot innocent people dead, Though they certainly set a precedent with the guy in Waitara. At the very least they should make public all information that lead them to not lay charges. As for OSH, What I said is they will always prosecute in the event of a death, I have no idea what jurisdiction they have on police matters. I know they can only look into Army incidents if invited to or if an official investigation is launched. The Guy in Waitara was innocent? OSH have powers to prosecute as do Police for that matter. Army incidents are usually held as a Court Martial. You, as a member of the Public, have the right of a citizen arrest as well for that matter. Better be careful how you use that authority as you may be prosecuted for an unlawful arrest. Any person can go to a court and lodge papers which may see an alledged offender brought before the court to answer the charges. I would suggest you do not do it for a person using a parking space you really wanted though.	Sweep (90)
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