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Thread ID: 100461 2009-06-08 22:57:00 Why are people putting VHS onto DVD Trev (427) PC World Chat
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780746 2009-06-09 02:18:00 why bother with dvd? just get a huge hard disk or if anything burn the raw capture files (if they are small enough) to DVD/BluRay for backup. if you have a reasonably modern TV it may have RGB/VGA or DVI input which you can attach the PC and use it as a DV player type thing.
i have a PC with a capture card and quite a large hard disk (500 gig) which can be used as a VCR/DVR so videos can be played over the network on a slave machine or the PC attached to the LCD TV we have
it can also capture DVDs, Videos from the composite/svideo in however transcoding the MPEG1 videos to DVD takes an age on my current hardware so for now i just keep the raw (~513MB p/H - 1Gb p/H) video files on the disk
williamF (115)
780747 2009-06-09 02:36:00 True, if I had a video, I would probably record then convert them to WMV. Then chuck them on the Xbox, and then stream them Speedy Gonzales (78)
780748 2009-06-09 03:44:00 I have a collection of over 200 VHS tapes of Formula One motor racing that take up this much space <------------------------------------------------------->

Converting them to DVD will only take up this much space <------->

My main reason for copying VHS to DVD as well.

It is possible to put 2⅓ tapes on each disc - a fraction of the space. Suddenly I have extra room with just as much content.

The biggest downside is that they need to be copied in real time.

Although many of my tapes are more than 20 years old, the quality is quite good but I am aware of them deteriorating and so DVD seems a good idea. Besides, VHS will disappear eventually. I suppose DVDs will as well. Then we will have to copy the DVDs into the new format. :eek: Passes the time, eh?
Roscoe (6288)
780749 2009-06-09 05:14:00 bah....
Why would anyone NOT BACKUP their tapes.....
There will have been degredation over 15years.
"Still watchable" does not mean than is hasnt degraded or is safe.

"Tape is not an archival format"

"Those accustomed to storing paper and microfilm may be annoyed by the relatively short life expectancies (ten to thirty years) of magnetic tape materials"

www.clir.org

videoexpert.home.att.net
"Let's get the bad news over with: videotape is not an
archival medium. Videotapes made thirty years ago are barely
playable, even in the tender, loving hands of an experienced
technician. Common videotapes recorded and played back on common
VCRs by common nontechnical people, may last about 15 years.
There are some unknowns in this estimate; tape is made better
than it used to be. It may last longer than 15 years but we
won't know until enough time goes by to see how it survives.
Most experts agree, however, that tape cannot endure generation
after generation like slides and photographs do."



3 banana's
:banana:banana:banana
sroby (11519)
780750 2009-06-09 05:14:00 My father has done this.
As I said, Blu-Ray will replace DVD.
And xxxx will replace Blu-ray.
And yyy will replace zzz.

And he said he doesn't care, he won't be here then.

Just remember whatever you use it will become obsolete eventually.

For the best long term storage use clay tablets, they will last a few thousand years........
pctek (84)
780751 2009-06-09 05:22:00 Quote from interweb, so it must be true :banana:banana:banana

"Taiyo Yuden produced ‘Super Cyanine’, a chemically stabilized version of the original Cyanine dye designs, while TDK offers media that uses ‘metal-stabilized Cyanine’ dye, leading to similar shelf lives as Taiyo Yuden’s media. Taiyo Yuden states their Super Cyanine dye is chemically stable for at least 70 years, and TDK states their metal-stabilized Cyanine is also stable for 70 years.

"On the other hand, Mitsubishi went in a different direction and produced what is called a Metal Azo dye, that they claim is stable for around 100 years. Azo dyes are chemically stable, however, the shelf life of media using Azo dyes typically does not exceed that of Super Cyanine and metal-stabilized Cyanine."

"Mitsui GOLD DVD-R 4X have a 300 year archival shelf life."

You know I want to watch it from the grave...
sroby (11519)
780752 2009-06-09 05:29:00 The biggest downside is that they need to be copied in real time.

Agreed :( but it is worth it in the long run :) and it is fun if you spread the dubbing exercise over a few years :clap:clap
Zippity (58)
780753 2009-06-09 06:51:00 Is there any consideration to sending them to a site that will archive videos - or files even - and keep them safe for posterity?

I regularly archive my photos to a GMail account with almost 8-gig of storage, and if I had to I guess I could also send a few videos there too .

More videos - more user names .
SurferJoe46 (51)
780754 2009-06-09 23:47:00 I really do not trust anybody else looking after my stock of photos. Besides which with 8000 odd on my hard drive I like to be able to access them in seconds. This morning we wanted to check all photos of my wife over the last 60 years. ACDSee took just 5 seconds to find 600 of them. Very fast and convenient.

And yes they are backed up all over the place!
Tom
Thomas01 (317)
780755 2009-06-10 01:35:00 I really do not trust anybody else looking after my stock of photos. Besides which with 8000 odd on my hard drive I like to be able to access them in seconds. This morning we wanted to check all photos of my wife over the last 60 years. ACDSee took just 5 seconds to find 600 of them. Very fast and convenient.

And yes they are backed up all over the place!
Tom

And, like I always think about SWMBO when looking at her old photos, I bet, to you Tom, your No.1 girl will look just as beautiful as the day you first met all those years ago... :)

Ken :thumbs:
kenj (9738)
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