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| Thread ID: 108431 | 2010-03-28 10:05:00 | Trademe issue: Seller removed leader's top bid but not all of them | utopian201 (6245) | Press F1 |
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| 870659 | 2010-03-28 10:05:00 | Hi I'm sure this has happened before, but I don't know what the proper thing to do is. I had placed an autobid of up to $4300 on an item, but there was an existing autobid with a limit higher than mine. So my autobid automatically jumps to the highest (as it should) and then the existing autobid is placed above that. eg, the listing looks like $4,310.00 28 Mar 3:17 pm trev1947 (27 ) $4,300.00 28 Mar 3:17 pm utopian201 (0 ) $4,210.00 27 Mar 1:37 pm trev1947 (27 ) $4,200.00 27 Mar 1:37 pm utopian201 (0 ) $4,110.00 27 Mar 1:37 pm trev1947 (27 ) $4,100.00 27 Mar 1:37 pm utopian201 (0 ) $4,030.00 27 Mar 1:29 pm trev1947 (27 ) $4,020.00 27 Mar 1:29 pm utopian201 (0 ) $4,010.00 27 Mar 1:29 pm trev1947 (27 ) $4,000.00 27 Mar 1:29 pm utopian201 (0 ) $3,910.00 27 Mar 1:29 pm trev1947 (27 ) Just then I got an email saying the seller has removed the top bid and now I lead, with my autobid maximum. Is this proper? I mean, my autobid up to $4300 would not have been placed had the other guy not placed his bids. Shouldn't he remove all of that guy's bids and leave my top bid as the first one below the leader (trev1947)? |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 870660 | 2010-03-28 10:13:00 | That would be the ethical thing to do, but I'm not sure if the seller is able to do that (can anyone more familiar with TradeMe confirm?) - try asking the trademe staff to sort it out. Note that this may also be shill bidding - that's often the story behind a probing set of bids like this... if you suspect it's the case here, you can report the seller. |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 870661 | 2010-03-28 10:17:00 | Probably best to contact Trade Me and clarify. But it sounds reasonable though if the previous top bid was removed, you would be the night highest bidder. Using your example if $4310 was removed, then you are next in line at $4300. If I remember correctly, only the top bid can be removed, not all bids. The thing that could make it dodgy, is it could be that the other autobid was a dummy account set up by the seller to artificially bump up the price, in which case Trade me can probably track that through the IP addresses and registration details. Let us know how you get on! Edit - Erayd - snap! You said pretty much the same thing but in half as many words as me :) |
Chikara (5139) | ||
| 870662 | 2010-03-28 10:27:00 | But my $4300 (autobid) bid wouldn't have been placed if trev1947's bids were removed, since it jumps to the maximum if a higher autobid has been placed (which has now been removed!) I've sent an email to trademe...im a trade me n00b as I've never successfully won anything yet... |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 870663 | 2010-03-28 10:48:00 | Spewing. I'd inform the bidder to remove all your bids and that you have no intention of going through with the purchase, and I'd notify trademe of what you want as well. Even if the seller is legit the big flag saying "watch out" has been raised so your best bet is to withdraw entirely. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 870664 | 2010-03-28 11:23:00 | Did the trev1947 guy said anything about removing his bid on the auction? If he didnt its most likely planned by the seller | Ollie (794) | ||
| 870665 | 2010-03-28 12:39:00 | Did the trev1947 guy said anything about removing his bid on the auction? If he didnt its most likely planned by the seller Yep (www.trademe.co.nz). I also just took a look at Trev's feedback (www.trademe.co.nz) - it's rather revealing! |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 870666 | 2010-03-28 20:06:00 | Hi Thanks for all your feedback. The seller was sensible about it and did the right thing and removed all my bids. But this does raise an interesting point: What measures are in place to protect buyers if: someone places an astronomical autobid, so any autobids anyone else places automatically jumps. Then the astro-bidder removes their top bid - the result: everyone's autobids are now at their maximum, which wouldn't have normally happened if the astro-autobid wasn't in place. I had the feeling that once you were outbid at auction, you were in the clear and no longer had an obligation to buy. Looks like that isn't the case! |
utopian201 (6245) | ||
| 870667 | 2010-03-28 20:13:00 | Well I think you can't complain because you were (apparently) willing to pay that amount for the item. Then because the other bidder gives up you want to pay less. Shouldn't autobid when it hasn't met reserve then. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 870668 | 2010-03-28 21:39:00 | "I DID NOT BID ON YOUR CAR AND THATS THE TRUTH.I HAVE NOT BEEN HOME ALL DAY" That is interesting. Maybe someone has stolen trev1947's password |
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