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| Thread ID: 100719 | 2009-06-18 08:16:00 | Smacking Referendum - User Pays | Twelvevolts (5457) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 783419 | 2009-06-19 00:20:00 | The question isn't just biased, it's plain wrong: I've yet to see any parent taken to court for smacking their child. What the law does is it removes the 'defence' claim that got alot of people a free pass when they beat their kids. Two very different things. I think that 310,000 people heard 'anti-smacking' and started running around like headless chooks. I wonder how many of them have fully read the law. I haven't. I know where my say is going: right in the bin. I refuse to take part in such a pathetic excuse for 'democracy'. |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 783420 | 2009-06-19 00:38:00 | What the law does is it removes the 'defence' claim that got alot of people a free pass when they beat their kids. That never happened. No one got a free pass to beat their children, You can claim anything you want in order to defend your actions yet you still need to convince a jury that is what you were doing. The law worked fine in the past. Sometimes a kid needs a kick up the arse.The real world is meant to be harsh.Beating your kids has always been legal, and those that didn't care about the law then, still don't give a ****. It takes a retard to confuse the two but there are plenty of retards and thats why the old law separated the two. And if your of the mentality that you can beat kids to death then no law will make any difference. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 783421 | 2009-06-19 00:51:00 | ****. I dunno why but I said defence. I meant discipline. | ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 783422 | 2009-06-19 02:59:00 | ****. I dunno why but I said defence. I meant discipline. You may have to be smacked.:blush: |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 783423 | 2009-06-19 06:26:00 | That guy in Christchurch got prosecuted recently, his word against the off duty cop guess who they believed. I wasn't there so can't comment either way but just to say there has been a case and recently | gary67 (56) | ||
| 783424 | 2009-06-19 11:54:00 | It is only a waste of money because Labour and National are too arrogant to make referendums binding. . Well let's hope they stay arrogant for an very long time if this is the quality of the questions people come up with. I'm not sure what party would make it binding, you'd have to be crazy to let laws be made like this. Maybe the Raving Loony Party would take it on? |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 783425 | 2009-06-19 14:50:00 | Well let's hope they stay arrogant for an very long time if this is the quality of the questions people come up with. I'm not sure what party would make it binding, you'd have to be crazy to let laws be made like this. Maybe the Raving Loony Party would take it on? Are you going to head the Raving Loony Party. Personally I don't see the question as being ambiguous at all but feel it is an excuse for the pollies to ignore it. In other words the politicians are full of tuti. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 783426 | 2009-06-19 21:30:00 | As much as I would like binding refos you would become unstuck with things like the death penalty. I am against the dp but I reckon if it went to refo it would be in the 90s for. The wording of the question is irrelevant, all people arent dumb. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 783427 | 2009-06-19 22:53:00 | Twelvevolts, you pretty much summed it up for me. How people can be so ignorant to vote for such a biased question to be approved for a referendum? The whole thing becomes meaningless when some special interest group gets to choose the wording. Who decided that smacking was part of "good" parenting? Thankfully mushhead, you dont run the country, and there is a huge % that does feel smacking is part of good parenting....may I ask if you are over 20 yrs of age?, I doubt it, and you have probably already been brain washed with this country's PC policies! |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 783428 | 2009-06-20 01:38:00 | The whole reason the question is worded like that is extremly super mega simple. The people who got off their arses and organised the petition for a refo and the people who signed it wanted the wording like that. If people do all the petitioning they should be allowed to word the refo how they like. People who are against the smacking have no right to question the wording at all they just have the right to say no. PC liberals in this country are dangerous and I hope the SIS is keeping watch on them. |
prefect (6291) | ||
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