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| Thread ID: 101444 | 2009-07-15 10:18:00 | Cafes paying for music | limepile (96) | PC World Chat |
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| 791859 | 2009-07-17 04:09:00 | Its a totally crap law, execs sending out their henchmen. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 791860 | 2009-07-17 04:45:00 | It's all a crock of **** to get more money . What about contractors/builders/the like playing a radio while working? The radio station already is paying through the nose to broadcast the song a few dozen kilometers, where anyone can tune in for free, legally . A radio 'broadcasting' audio over a radius of 10-15 meters is no different, with the exception that the audio is in a listenable form . So it's illegal for a cafe owner to play a radio in the background, but if every customer were to bring in their own personal radio, that would be legal? Again; it's all a crock of **** to get more money . **** them . Is that an AK47? Don't think I'll say what I need to say in harsh tones since I see your avatar! Kindly, Sir gentleman, I must humbly arouse your spirit of cool and collective thinking processes to just ruminate over what I have to say . The two proffered ideas that you present are totally at opposite ends of whatever rainbow you live on . Paying customers in a cafe are much-o different from steeplejacks and workers listening to their personal radios or MP3 players . It's this way: ONE IS A PAYING PERSON IN AN ESTABLISHMENT, whilst the other is being paid to create or build something and happens to NOT have a paying crowd of well-wishers, groupies, parents or other persons that will hear the music too . It's all about location and who is paying what for services and from where/to whom the entertainment is being procured . PS: I LIKE rainbows and actually have nothing in person against them nor people who choose to reside upon, under or over them . Any persons or locales mentioned by me were entirely fictional and have no real reference to anyone either dead or alive and with malice toward no one else - in the world - or New Zealand - especially ones with AK47s . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 791861 | 2009-07-17 06:55:00 | I see your point. The record industry just gets me riled up sometimes. BTW, it's an AA-12. |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 791862 | 2009-07-17 08:50:00 | Cafe's, bars, shops etc can be charged by 2 organisations for public performance of music. APRA collects fees for music played in public, including live bands, radio, cd, tv etc. PPNZ collects fees for using recordings owned by the record labels they represent. So APRA is paid a fee for the use of music and lyrics and PPNZ is paid for the use of the recorded music. Live bands playing at a venue would only be liable for fees to APRA CD's being played would be subject to both. |
Steven (7085) | ||
| 791863 | 2009-07-17 09:41:00 | I would like to know, say I'm playing some recordings of a band called windir. Why the ... should APRA collect fees for a now defunct Nordic band? |
the_bogan (9949) | ||
| 791864 | 2009-07-17 12:10:00 | Public performance fees for Cellphone ringtones www.techdirt.com And for playing music to employees www.techdirt.com And embedding a youtube video www.techdirt.com And for music in video games www.techdirt.com And playing music to your animals www.techdirt.com and playing your radio loud enough for your neighbour to hear www.techdirt.com and see this www.techdirt.com Just plain crazy |
porkster (6331) | ||
| 791865 | 2009-07-17 16:18:00 | Cafe's, bars, shops etc can be charged by 2 organisations for public performance of music. APRA collects fees for music played in public, including live bands, radio, cd, tv etc. PPNZ collects fees for using recordings owned by the record labels they represent. So APRA is paid a fee for the use of music and lyrics and PPNZ is paid for the use of the recorded music. Live bands playing at a venue would only be liable for fees to APRA CD's being played would be subject to both. I was working in New York City a bunch of years ago and I was handling cables, microphone cords and generally being a go-fer for WMGM 1050AM radio during a segmented show called "Bea Cavendish At Jack Silverman's 'Streamliner Lounge'"...yadda, yadda, and we got T-O-L-D by the FCC that even though the live band playing in the background was NOT an integral part of the show - but that it COULD be heard over-the-air, we were in violation of the broadcast laws at that time. Here's the kick: IF the band was playing original material of their own creation, then allowing it on the air was OK. IF the band was playing a cover song - or one that had been produced and was in circulation or ever had been so, then that was illegal. This was in the many years BEFORE the digital rights and all the MPAA/RIAA crok popped up - and even I can see the difference, although the lines get kinda blurred. Little did we know that this would snowball into a whole new bag of worms. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 791866 | 2009-07-17 20:49:00 | I have decided to take the rego number of all the boom boom sheeps of hit that cruise round annoying the crap out of grumpy old men like me!!! Then I will report them to APRA, PPNZ, The Godfather, Arnie the Governator, or any other big ugly b*stard who will shut them down. If I get reall mad, I will report them to Ruth Richardson and Jennie Shipley - (for your benefit Joe, they are a couple or retired woman? politicians with not a drop of the milk of human kindness between them) Ken :thumbs::thumbs: |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 791867 | 2009-07-18 00:51:00 | Not Ruth and Jenny ! Argh! The all blacks need their props! | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 791868 | 2009-07-18 00:57:00 | Not Ruth and Jenny ! Argh! The all blacks need their props! Especially today Rob :banana:banana Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
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