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| Thread ID: 101462 | 2009-07-15 23:43:00 | Power Charges | royaloaks (8205) | PC World Chat |
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| 792046 | 2009-07-16 09:47:00 | The Maori can all go back to traditional cooking which is what they were doing before the power lines came along. Too much of that tradition could really ruin recruiting for the missionary trade. ;) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 792047 | 2009-07-16 10:09:00 | Corporations are sociopathic and devoid of empathy Government Must Regulate If they don't, vote in one that does. PERIOD. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 792048 | 2009-07-16 10:52:00 | Isn't it that there wont be any more price hikes? So National might not be bringing prices down but they probably wont go up. That's my understanding of the whole power price conundrum. We got a Letter a few weeks back - you know the type - "we have held our prices for X number of months and absorbed the costs over this time - but we can no longer do this -- Increase of X $ per month" ------------- | wainuitech (129) | ||
| 792049 | 2009-07-16 11:36:00 | Isn't it that there wont be any more price hikes? So National might not be bringing prices down but they probably wont go up. That's my understanding of the whole power price conundrum. Well pretty soon they're going to come up with another lame excuse to dig further into our wallets. Greedy bastards. We got a Letter a few weeks back - you know the type - "we have held our prices for X number of months and absorbed the costs over this time - but we can no longer do this -- Increase of X $ per month" ------------- Lol yeah, that's one of the lame excuses I was referring to. Since when would they 'absorb' costs for our interests? Should go down as one of the world's greatest fibs. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 792050 | 2009-07-16 11:51:00 | They'll hold the prices while we hold our breath. We have more incentive than them, but we won't be holding our breaths long. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 792051 | 2009-07-16 21:42:00 | I can't imagine any government not seeing the benefits to them,for not turning Electricity production etc in to SOE's.If the CEO doesn't perform, make them responsible. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 792052 | 2009-07-17 02:44:00 | Sadly this all goes back to the electricity reforms of the mid-90s. The theory was to introduce competition but without any incentive to increase generation. Arguably NZ is too small to have competing generators. Yes, they brought in massive efficencies compared with the NZED but the public infrastructure element was lost. If you sold electricity, why would you build a new dam? The cost takes 20 -50 years to recover. Much easier to keep the supply limited and watch the price rise. Plus the government of the day and the Electricity Commissioner are going to accuse you of overcharging anyway, so why buy more grief by trying to build new powerstations? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 792053 | 2009-07-17 02:51:00 | Sadly this all goes back to the electricity reforms of the mid-90s. The theory was to introduce competition but without any incentive to increase generation. Arguably NZ is too small to have competing generators. Yes, they brought in massive efficencies compared with the NZED but the public infrastructure element was lost. If you sold electricity, why would you build a new dam? The cost takes 20 -50 years to recover. Much easier to keep the supply limited and watch the price rise. Plus the government of the day and the Electricity Commissioner are going to accuse you of overcharging anyway, so why buy more grief by trying to build new powerstations? I was involved in the electricity industry when Max Bradford was bringing in his 'deregulated' industry. The industry knew at the time it was going to be a cock-up, but you can't tell the government anything! As far as building generating capacity goes, it's not just the length of time you have to wait for a ROI, the other thing that kills this sector is the RMA. |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 792054 | 2009-07-17 02:52:00 | Does it not follow,that if one lots cocks it up,then the other lot can un-cock it up? The way is clear,even for me to see. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 792055 | 2009-07-17 02:52:00 | Sadly this all goes back to the electricity reforms of the mid-90s . The theory was to introduce competition but without any incentive to increase generation . Arguably NZ is too small to have competing generators . Yes, they brought in massive efficencies compared with the NZED but the public infrastructure element was lost . If you sold electricity, why would you build a new dam? The cost takes 20 -50 years to recover . Much easier to keep the supply limited and watch the price rise . Plus the government of the day and the Electricity Commissioner are going to accuse you of overcharging anyway, so why buy more grief by trying to build new powerstations? Exactly . Although, power companies have been trying to build new generation capacity but keep fighting uphill battles (and cancelling projects altogether) because of NIMBYism . If all those proposed wind, hydro, and thermal stations had gone ahead then who knows what sort of impact that would have had on current spot prices . |
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