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| Thread ID: 101647 | 2009-07-22 00:24:00 | Weatherston GUILTY | nofam (9009) | PC World Chat |
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| 793920 | 2009-07-23 12:36:00 | I have noted since we have been increasingly following the path suggested by the Sensible Sentencing Trust, that crime appears to be getting worse (as you'd expect with this lock em up all up for a long time philosophy). As we continue down this path, most likely it will get worse still until finally so called "Sensible" sentencing will lose credibility with most of the public. | Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 793921 | 2009-07-23 13:19:00 | Kuariki is locked up once again so I understand it. Weatherston has gone through the system also. In his case he never denied the killing. In my opinion he did not plead innocence but a case of provocation. The crown brought a case and the jury found him guilty as charged. We have no idea of what he has done in the past which may count toward the sentence. I believe that sentencing will take place later this year. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 793922 | 2009-07-23 18:59:00 | I have noted since we have been increasingly following the path suggested by the Sensible Sentencing Trust, that crime appears to be getting worse (as you'd expect with this lock em up all up for a long time philosophy). As we continue down this path, most likely it will get worse still until finally so called "Sensible" sentencing will lose credibility with most of the public. Care to give your opinion on what we must do? If prevention fails, then what alternative do we have other than life imprisonment? Kuariki is locked up once again so I understand it. I believe he was locked up for a month pending another hearing, at which the judge determined that even though he breached parole conditions, he was not a threat to society - even after being on drugs & after charges of assault. And so released. (Please correct me if I am wrong). |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 793923 | 2009-07-23 20:25:00 | What rubbish most New Zealanders wants crooks locked up. Only a few liberals who have no thoughts for the crooks victims want them in the community causing more carnage. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 793924 | 2009-07-23 20:34:00 | What rubbish most New Zealanders wants crooks locked up. Only a few liberals who have no thoughts for the crooks victims want them in the community causing more carnage. Let punctuation be your friend. :p Was that "What rubbish - most New Zealanders wants crooks locked up" or "What rubbish (it is that) most New Zealanders wants crooks locked up" Kuariki = poster boy for the death penalty. What a worthless piece of trash - and a total waste of untold thousands of taxpayer dollars. Does anyone seriously think that he'll become a contributing member of society? |
Peterj116 (6762) | ||
| 793925 | 2009-07-23 21:30:00 | Care to give your opinion on what we must do? If prevention fails, then what alternative do we have other than life imprisonment? The other side of the coin is to take the stance that criminals are the product of our failure as a society (ie the criminal is the victim) and that we are responsible as a group for their behaviour (the criminal act is just the end result of our failure). So rather then punish the offender we should put every resource into assimilating him into society, apparently this care and attention will be rewarded by a cessation to law breaking, and if not, well, they weren't to blame anyway,we are,so lets just accept that our chickens are coming home to roost. Crazy crazy dribble. You will notice Deane often refers to the fact that no society has ever eradicated crime, As if in some bizarre way this supports his argument. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 793926 | 2009-07-23 21:55:00 | The other side of the coin is to take the stance that criminals are the product of our failure as a society (ie the criminal is the victim) and that we are responsible as a group for their behaviour (the criminal act is just the end result of our failure). So rather then punish the offender we should put every resource into assimilating him into society, apparently this care and attention will be rewarded by a cessation to law breaking, and if not, well, they weren't to blame anyway,we are,so lets just accept that our chickens are coming home to roost. Crazy crazy dribble. You will notice Deane often refers to the fact that no society has ever eradicated crime, As if in some bizarre way this supports his argument. Yeah, society has failed them, it has failed us all. But that does not excuse nor justify their behavior. The world is full of people who have had far worse a life than anyone in NZ can imagine. We can place blame on almost anyone for almost anything. And the blame game is endless. But it is all about people not being able to responsibility for their own actions. Plain and simple, if you can't do the time don't do the crime. |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 793927 | 2009-07-23 22:18:00 | I think we all knew this was coming: www.3news.co.nz Did he? |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 793928 | 2009-07-23 22:25:00 | We should be so lucky. Maybe there will be some pissed off inmates he has caused a law change? | Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 793929 | 2009-07-23 22:30:00 | Yeah, society has failed them, it has failed us all. But that does not excuse nor justify their behavior. The world is full of people who have had far worse a life than anyone in NZ can imagine. We can place blame on almost anyone for almost anything. And the blame game is endless. But it is all about people not being able to responsibility for their own actions. Plain and simple, if you can't do the time don't do the crime. The problem being that the time allotted by the judiciary for a criminal to spend in jail is not enough for him to respect it. And, anecdotally, many criminals seem to prefer living in jail anyway - less temptations, three meals a day, laundry done for you, nice warm bed, 'girlfriend' in the next cell... |
johcar (6283) | ||
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