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Thread ID: 101647	2009-07-22 00:24:00	Weatherston GUILTY	nofam (9009)	PC World Chat

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793900	2009-07-22 23:40:00	I guess so, but, now I am not clear on this... He has been in custody since this happened, correct? So over a year, and it will be another month or two till sentencing. So nearly two years will be cut from his sentence for this? Can someone confirm? Yes. You're quite right. That's usually how it works - time in custody is taken off. Plus time off for the trauma of giving evidence, time off to perfect his smarmy smirk before he meets Butch & his mates, plus time off to give notice at the University.	Peterj116 (6762)
793901	2009-07-22 23:44:00	plus time off to give notice at the University. "Yeah, I'll be in jail for maybe 18 years. Perhaps I can be a janitor in the old block when I am released?"	qazwsxokmijn (102)
793902	2009-07-23 00:20:00	The justice system has fail, and when the chief justice starts recommending amnesty for the prisoners because of overcrowding, when the prison population is being released at a crazy rate for parole and good behavior . Just look around, I have known more than one person who got community service instead of hard time . Prevention is great, but the fact of the matter remains, what better way of prevention than the threat of hard time in a hostile environment? I think it's time to call on her resignation . So you know someone that did community service . How have they behaved since? The fact is that prison time does nothing to stop re-offending and is more likely to produce a more twisted crim . The choice is to continue spending the $100,000 a year to keep them locked up or to look for alternative answers . I think it's time you read the full transcript of the speech . stuff . co . nz/dompost/documents/speech-by-chief-justice-sian-elias . pdf" target="_blank">file . stuff . co . nz	PaulD (232)
793903	2009-07-23 00:26:00	I guess so, but, now I am not clear on this... He has been in custody since this happened, correct? So over a year, and it will be another month or two till sentencing. So nearly two years will be cut from his sentence for this? Can someone confirm? It won't be "cut from his sentence". He has been remanded in custody (in an actual prison) - and as anybody who has ever been a remand prisoner will tell you, remand time is harder time than time after sentencing. Remand prisoners are allowed less privileges and visiting rights than general population.	Deane F (8204)
793904	2009-07-23 01:08:00	So you know someone that did community service. How have they behaved since? The fact is that prison time does nothing to stop re-offending and is more likely to produce a more twisted crim. The choice is to continue spending the $100,000 a year to keep them locked up or to look for alternative answers. I think it's time you read the full transcript of the speech file.stuff.co.nz The crim bastards are better off in jail, 100k cheap at half price, when they are out they cause more than 100k of **** a year. That big mouth judge is a known liberal judge soft on crims hard on victims.	prefect (6291)
793905	2009-07-23 01:15:00	The crim bastards are better off in jail, 100k cheap at half price, when they are out they cause more than 100k of **** a year. That big mouth judge is a known liberal judge soft on crims hard on victims. You're exposing yourself again! Read the speech. :thumbs:	Richard (739)
793906	2009-07-23 01:24:00	Well this one the liberals lost sorry, double bunking and living in shipping containers and an increase in prison population are to come. With sensible sentencing trust lambasting weak liberal judges and the Act party and their ideas including 3 strikes and you are out the crims are dangerously going to come in second with their anti victim liberal supporters. www.nzherald.co.nz Could be a double edged sword if a lady kills a man later for sexual assault they wont be able to use it.	prefect (6291)
793907	2009-07-23 01:30:00	So you know someone that did community service . How have they behaved since? The fact is that prison time does nothing to stop re-offending and is more likely to produce a more twisted crim . The choice is to continue spending the $100,000 a year to keep them locked up or to look for alternative answers . I think it's time you read the full transcript of the speech . stuff . co . nz/dompost/documents/speech-by-chief-justice-sian-elias . pdf" target="_blank">file . stuff . co . nz When did it start costing $100,000 per year to keep a prisionor . Last time I heard, it cost about $40,000 . If it is now $100,000, why has it jumped so high . I suspect if it has more thann doubled, it will be paying new hangers on . I do know that prisioners do get 1st class health treatment while in prision, perhaps better than if they were in the public	robbyp (2751)
793908	2009-07-23 01:31:00	I think the 100k figure was grabbed out of the air by the libs.	prefect (6291)
793909	2009-07-23 01:31:00	Liberals in NZ starting in the eighties to late 90s wrecked the justice system here by being weak on criminals and tough on victims. Thanks to Act who are guiding the government these failed policies are getting pushed back, the prison population is increasing which by the way is a good thing. NZ crooks who have a 80% recidivist re offending will be behind bars where they belong. We dont lock up anywhere near the percentage of the population that the yanks do, so we probably have a way to go because there are similarities between NZ and usa. If like the usa we have to incarcerate 10% of all males from a certain part of the community so be it here also. Clayton was a nut, only a nut stabs a girl over 200 times. Lucky he didnt get away with on psychological grounds. I am sure this creep and his obese pommy lawyer will be looking at an appeal. The judge is a known liberal soft on crooks hard on victims judge. We do, don't we? Maori are over-represented in prison statistics - in fact, it is much higher than 10% IIRC.... Doesn't seem to make a difference...	johcar (6283)
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