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Thread ID: 109036	2010-04-21 13:15:00	Setting two routers with Win7 - and homegroups	jrp (11192)	Press F1

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878854	2010-04-21 13:15:00	I’ve got myself in a twist with my home network set up – so any advice would be much appreciated . But keep it simple as I’ve not got a huge amount of experience in networking . I’ve got two laptops which are connected to a wireless router . Both laptops are running Win7 Ultimate . The wireless router is then connected by cat5 cable to another router which has our phone too and which then goes to our outside cable connection (this is in Tokyo) . The cable on the wireless router is connected to the other through a normal port rather then the `router’ port as I found when setting it up the whole thing wouldn’t work as the wireless router was not the router to the outside . The problems I’m having are: 1 . The laptops don’t connect automatically to the net even though I’ve set it all up to do so . They connect to the wireless router alright – just not through the main router . 2 . Often only one laptop connects to the net at a time . 3 . Homegroups only work about once a week – even If both laptops have managed to connect to the web at the same time . What I’m looking for is any advice on how I should set the whole thing up from scratch again . It would be simple enough if I only needed the wireless router in there as two routers seems to be a problem – but we need the other router in there for our phone . Thanks in advance :thanks	jrp (11192)
878855	2010-04-21 22:23:00	Can you log into your wireless router and see if the setting for enable DHCP server is turned on. If it is try turning it off. I think how it works is you should only have one router on your network, so you should try and turn off the routing features on your second router so that it acts as a switch	McRuff (12291)
878856	2010-04-22 08:01:00	Yes I have the DHCP server enabled. That will be nice if that is all it is. I'll turn that off when I get home and post an update then.	jrp (11192)
878857	2010-04-23 05:12:00	If the wireless router is plugged into the "normal" port on the main router, the switch, it has to have DHCP turned off and be assigned a static IP outside the range of the main routers DHCP. So if your main router is giving out a range of IPs from 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.20, assign the wireless router 192.168.1.100. It should work after that as the wireless router will act as an access point and just pass all the information to your PCs. Alternatively you can plug the wireless router into the WAN port on the main router (from its own wan port) and it should just all start working :)	WarNox (8772)
878858	2010-04-23 08:44:00	Thank's for the advice so far - this has been a bit of a mission. It's a pain in the behind to get into the wireless router settings when it's not set as the router. And it' a major pain when in the main router as everything is in Japanese. The DHCP is now disabled in the wireless. I have assigned a static IP to the wireless of 172.1.1.1 (that's what it defaulted to when I chose the static option). Is this IP what I now use to get into the settings of the wireless router? I managed to get into the main router - but as I said, it's in Japanese but I can tell what a few things are if things need changing here. Should the firewall be enabled in the wireless? It is a present. I am still having trouble connecting both laptops to the net at the same time - I can get one connected to the net (which I'm on at present) and the other into the main router's settings at the same time - but not onto the net. Any more ideas as to what I might have set up wrong? Thanks in advance.	jrp (11192)
878859	2010-04-23 08:47:00	I've now disconnected the working laptop from the net (but not from the wireless router), and I was now able to connect with my other laptop. hmmmmmmmmmm	jrp (11192)
878860	2010-04-23 08:49:00	The laptop which previously was connected now will not connect to the net. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm	jrp (11192)
878861	2010-04-23 09:21:00	One other thought - does anyone know if there an easy way to get in and change the wireless router's (now a switch) settings other then disconnecting it from the other router etc?	jrp (11192)
878862	2010-04-24 02:29:00	One other thought - does anyone know if there an easy way to get in and change the wireless router's (now a switch) settings other then disconnecting it from the other router etc? The wireless router has to be on the same network as your main router, ie. If the main router's IP is 192.168.1.254/24, then the wireless has to be 192.168.1.x/24. x being any number 1-253 and not in the DHCP range that the main router is giving out. btw /24 is the subnet mask, 255.255.255.0.	WarNox (8772)
878863	2010-04-24 03:07:00	The wireless router has to be on the same network as your main router, ie . If the main router's IP is 192 . 168 . 1 . 254/24, then the wireless has to be 192 . 168 . 1 . x/24 . x being any number 1-253 and not in the DHCP range that the main router is giving out . Thanks for the reply WarNox . I think I've got it . Just to clarify a bit (network newbie remember) - I should change change the wireless router's static IP of 172 . 1 . 1 . 1 to somewhere between 192 . 168 . 1 . x to the subnetmask IP of 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 - just not in the range of IP's the main router's DHCP IP range? So the reason the net connections still are not working correctly is that 172 . 1 . 1 . 1 is not an IP for the network? I like to know why things don't work :nerd: I'm not 100% sure what the IP range is from the main router with it being all in Japanese, can I check the IP range through the run command somehow? Or alternatively, as I log on to the main router with and IP of 192 . 168 . 111 . 1 - would it be safe to asume if I just change the Wireless static IP to something closer the subnet mask IP, eg 200 . 200 . 200 . 2 , then it should work????	jrp (11192)
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