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Thread ID: 101931 2009-08-01 03:02:00 Bill English mikebartnz (21) PC World Chat
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797107 2009-08-01 22:38:00 I'm all for paying them a good wage, All perks should be scrapped.

Getting paid to live in your own house is a rort.Pure and simple.
Metla (12)
797108 2009-08-01 22:58:00 He should be given at least twice that much; so should all other politicians. It should be taken from their salaries, taxed and returned to them seriously dwindled.

I expect they are all paying a lower real tax rate than I pay on my evening job pittance.

On the whole matter of political fiscal suction, if they were to be renumerated in exact proportion to their value, they would almost all be forking out a large amount every week. Were they liable for their mistakes, Bill Birch alone would reverse the national debt.

May their lives be filled with Lucas.

Winston001 is bound under professional rules and long-standing custom to support public purse pilfering by the rich alone. ;)
R2x1 (4628)
797109 2009-08-02 00:19:00 How MP's rort the nation.........
www.stuff.co.nz
Not bad but a pity it was written by that narcissist.
mikebartnz (21)
797110 2009-08-02 01:10:00 Its trivial. If taxpayers were asked, MPs would be paid nothing. But we'd still expect them to work.

A far bigger issue is the social welfare budget for NZ - $16 billion per year. Its beyond what we can afford.It isin't!

Its also what helps make NZ special.

Also... if the country can afford to pay our politicians a fee to run the country, then that's a fair wage for high profile jobs.
Greg (193)
797111 2009-08-02 01:26:00 Bill English could have been more human and use only the minimal of tax payers money hem could be entitled too. me thinks kountryken (14110)
797112 2009-08-02 06:40:00 Better still, get rid of the whole bunch of politicians in the beehive and just hire consultants to run the show. It will be much cheaper. After all, they are hiring consultants to do the works, anyway.

Consultants often work at a much higher hourly rate than MPs.
With the hours most MPs work, we couldn't afford consultants...
And as a matter of interest, who do you suggest would choose the consultants?
We'd need to elect people to make those decisions, wouldn't we..?
Laura (43)
797113 2009-08-02 07:08:00 Oh dear what are we to do? Cicero (40)
797114 2009-08-02 07:27:00 Consultants often work at a much higher hourly rate than MPs.
With the hours most MPs work, we couldn't afford consultants...
And as a matter of interest, who do you suggest would choose the consultants?
We'd need to elect people to make those decisions, wouldn't we..?

Some MPs work absolutely extraordinary hours - for example Nikki Kaye works 6 and a half days a week (www.stuff.co.nz). Those sort of people need to be reimbursed appropriately for the amount of work they do, otherwise they'll just go into the private sector and work there (possibly as consultants:)). The lazy ones need to get out.

More importantly, spending $16 billion a year paying people who don't do any work, and some of whom have no intention of ever doing any work, is the concern. A safety net should be just that - a safety net, to help people who have lost their jobs, to provide a "buffer"; not be a lifestyle choice.
somebody (208)
797115 2009-08-02 09:58:00 This sort of argument is borne out of envy and tall-poppy syndrome. How dare someone we elected be paid well and accept what they are entitled to!!! :spam

If we cannot accept that MPs should be well paid and receive employment incentives - then only rich people will ever be able to go to Parliament.
Winston001 (3612)
797116 2009-08-02 10:11:00 Although I am a National supporter, never liked English six kids thats absolutely disgusting.
He is buggered now as he cant tell us to tighten our belts, If I was him I would repay the money and resign.
prefect (6291)
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